NightRabbit-When did you realize, vis-a-vis other kids, that you are a piece of shit?

Sorry but I couldn’t say what fucking filth you and your kind are in the IMHO thread.

First you come in to this thread spouting off conspiracy bullshit about not trusting what we’ve been “spoonfed” about 9/11, and then when it’s pointed out to you through multiple posts by multiple people why you’re wrong, you just stick your fingers in your ears and shout LA LA LA I live in fantasyland, I’ll believe what I wanna believe, I don’t wanna debate LA LA LA

Well fuck you.

Debate it bitch.

Debate it or fucking retract it like a goddamn adult.

Retract this:

or say it to the faces of the families of the 184 people who died at the Pentagon.

This shit may fly on Youtube and Myspace but I’m not gonna fucking let it fly on the SD-goddamn-MB.

Haven’t read the thread, and don’t believe any of the conspiracy theories (except the correct one of course) but: That’s a terrible argument! Presumably, if there were such a conspiracy as described in the other thread, then the families of the 184 people who died at the Pentagon would be very interested to know about it.

-FrL-

Sure, but there demonstrably wasn’t. At least, no conspiracist has come up with ANY alternative hypothesis that stands up to scrutiny.

ETA: She said the section the plane hit was vacant, i.e. no one died there. Therefore she either thinks those 184 people were insignificant or the conspiracy nuts have fooled her into thinking that part of the building was truly empty.

Ah, I had thought she just said no “government officials” died, and I took that to mean “bigwigs” or “higherups” or somesuch.

-FrL-

Are their lives more valuable or something? And yes, “bigwigs” and “higherups” did die. And . . .

Well, not that NightRabbit posts often, but now I know to treat anything and everything s/he says as nonsense, same as I do every other conspiracy theorist.

As an aside, wasn’t the initial impact of the Pentagon plane the ground, with momentum taking it into the building? And who said “no important files/computers/information” was lost? If the plans for an armored Bradley that actually works as designed were irretrievably lost, are we expected to believe that this would have shown up in an inventory of what was lost in the Washington Post?

Funny how the real conspiracies (such as Watergate or Iran-Contra) don’t need all this implausible, impossible bullshit ahead of being shown to be a conspiracy.

CTers are allowed to make up their own version of reality. Verifiable, provable facts by realists, though, are fabrications of the NWO.

Sadly, the Internet has allowed conspiracy theorists to fill the world with smoke emitted from their own asses, and then to insist that “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”

So CTs’ asses are on fire?

Word.

Pants, at least.

I had already gotten that vibe from her through other topics she’s started, but this just takes it way over the top.

Yes, and it’s what’s causing Global Warming, but the Illuminati are covering it up and blaming it on CO[sub]2[/sub].

Sadly enough, according to a poll I read in the W. Post about a year ago, about 16% of Americans believe in 9/11 bullshit. I’m glad people take the time to debunk CTs, but they move me to a sort of apathetic despair.

Yeah, but I think Zogby or somebody did a study a while ago that showed that no matter what you pick, around 12% of Americans will believe it when asked on a poll.

This is anecdotal, but my Dad is a retired Army major general, and he had a good friend (also a general officer) die from the plane hitting the Pentagon.
The guy was already ready to retire, was asked to stay on another year and was halfway through that extension before he was killed.

It doesn’t seem like much on the surface I suppose, but like my Dad, when you are a career officer doing 30 plus years of military service, you are away from your family a LOT, and not just during wars. TDY’s, moving every few years, going before Congressional appropriations committees…it’s pretty exhausting and why my Dad decided to call it quits after 36 years, even though he was in line to be the next Chief of Engineers, which would have given him his third star.

The point of all this is that the gentleman who lost his life had kids and a wife, and had made plans for their retirement whereby he essentially would be “paying her back” for all the times he was away, like my Dad has been doing with my Mom since 2004 (spending more time together, taking cruises, walks, etc). And then, poof. No more husband or Dad, debt to family unpaid.

It’s sad.

Somehow I get really irate at conspiracy theorists because I feel that they devalue the lives lost with their idiocy. These are often the same people that blame Bush for things that are quite obviously out of the realm of presidential control.
“I got a flat tire, it’s Bush’s fault!”
“9/11 was orchestrated by the Bush administration to be the premise for a bad war!”
Etc.

I gotta call bullshit.

I read the thread in question, and as I read it Nightrabbit basically said in about 5 posts;

“You know, I can sorta see where some of the conspiracy nuts are coming from, there are usually a few things that make me a little doubtfull…”

"I dont want to hijack the thread but since you asked, these things make me wonder. Just doubtfull though, Im not a nut, just “agnostic” about things…)

“again, dont really want to get into a cite war, but I was asked about a few things. I dont trust the accounts from either side, just dont think its set in stone that all conspiracy people are nutjobs”

“dont call me a whacko, I dont think missiles hit the pentagon or anything, just a few things bother me about it, and I am allowed to question things. The op asked where theories come from and I said its becasue of all these doubts people have. I am not here to debate 9/11”

“Right I am done, you want to fight about 9/11, and I said already I dont want to”

Those five posts were surrounded by a bunch of reactionaries who had decided they wanted to rail on some conspiracy nuts, and it seems Nightrabbit had wandered into the wrong thread at the wrong time.

As I read it, Nightrabbit didnt want to be a conspiracy nut, but just had a few doubts. This does not leave him/her
“operating on a lower level of intellectual honesty and/or sanity”.

And Nightrabbit is the one that got pitted :rolleyes: The mind boggles

“I am completely batshit insane, and know it, and know my batshittery is offensive, and don’t want to defend it because I can’t, but I have no problem spreading it. Here are some links to some batshitty websites, whose authors are frothing at the mouth like me.”

There’s no excuse believing this shit 6+ years down the road. When the crazies first started crawling out from underneath their holes, there weren’t a lot of people debunking their stuff. Their arguments were compelling because it was hard to believe they would lie so blatantly. I could understand if someone believed this shit for a couple weeks back in 2003. No more excuses, though. The verdict is in.

People can believe whatever sweet crap they want, for as long if they want.

If it had been a GD thread about 9/11, and Nightrabbit made a pile of declarations as fact and had his/her ass handed back, then no problem, pit away…

But to just say, in effect, that she has some doubts about some things, and to attempt to illustrate when asked, and then to walk away, IN IMHO!!!

Well this is my opinion. I think defensive anti-conspiracy theorists just wanted a lynching. What, there isnt enough idiots out there that you had to create one?

If NightRabbit really didn’t have any interest in “debating” anything, there wouldn’t be paragraphs explaining their position or links to 9/11 truth sites in that thread.

That has to be one of the most excruciatingly irritating tactics people use - oh, I don’t want to debate. I just want to squeeze out this turd of an idea without you all telling me how bad it smells. No. Believe what ever stupid shit you want, just don’t belch out your ridiculous ideas in front of a potentially undecided audience and expect that nobody present will try and correct it just because you “aren’t interested in debating”. My duty as an informed human being is to prevent idiotic ideas from spreading.