This is true. But I don’t recall any Star Trek episode that featured the ship travelling through an asteroid belt without a reason to actually be in the asteroid belt.
I recall two ST episodes… one in TNG where they were trying to recover a Federation ship equipped with a phase-shift drive (or something) that had become trapped in an asteroid, and a Voyager episode where they chased another ship into an asteroid… the ship was trying to hide.
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Okay, what I actually meant to say was…nah, forget it. I’m not gonna nitpick the nitpick on my nitpick of the nitpick on my nitpick. This has gone on long enough.
But while I’m here, something I’ve always thought about regarding the ST world in general: Why no spacesuits? Apart from one scene in one of the movies (ST 5?–where 2 boarders in space armor board a Klingon ship and shoot everyone?) and a few times in the original series (though I think those were more like HAZMAT suits than proper space suits), they never wear spacesuits. Even when beaming aboard a ship about to suffer structural failure.
If it were my space battleship, every crew member would be in armored space suits during every red alert, and the bridge and engineering crew would wear them at all times while on duty(though they could keep their helmets clipped to their chair or something).
The mobile emitter is future technology from Voyager’s perspective. I don’t remember how they got it but I know they always had to be careful with it because if it broke they couldn’t get another one.
Also, people WANT to explore space. No one makes them go out in do it, they choose to do it because, I don’t know, I guess it’s something to do in a future where you don’t have to work for a living.
Sound in space: I’ve often heard this explained as added for the crews to have a better sense of what’s happening to them, both in Star Wars and Star Trek. I’m not sure but I don’t think you ever hear phaser whine or torpedo noises outside but the bridge… elsewhere in the ship there are just thumps as the ship gets knocked around.
–John
I can thnk of only one Deep Space Nine Episode where O’Brien, Garak and Nog go to an abandoned space station to get some parts.
Mr. Chekhov? Is that you?
Well, Voyager had a few suits on hand, leftover from First Contact. As soon as they used them once, you started seeing them everywhere. Heck, I think I remember a scene where Tom Paris was sitting on the toilet with a spacesuit on.
Another good reason I don’t watch Voyager.
I was being facetious. You know very well that “bathrooms” have been eradicated by the 24th century. People don’t pee or shit at all. They just keep storing all their waste until they blow up. That’s what they use in their Photon Torpedoes… it’s not matter/antimatter, it’s just a bunch of people who really, really need to take a dump.
TOS “Tholian Web” featured space suits. The TOS “Mudds Women” had the Enterprise flying through an asteroid field, without any damage unlike certain other vessels that were almost pulverized by asteroids. Right Spoofe?
Sure, 'Rigger. Why not?
Icerigger
Rapt, I swell.
Spoofe
Well apt, sir.
Oh, sorry. Wrong thread.
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…Except for all the episodes in which it was broken and then fixed by the end of the show. “Drone” is the most grievous example. But we’re talking again about plot inconsitencies – not sloppy science.
There’s a difference between being able to fix something, and being able to make a whole new one from scratch.
Although, you have come close to another point… after several years of having the device, why haven’t they been able to reverse-engineer it? If they know enough about it to repair it, don’t you think they’d be able to figure out, eventually, how it was built?
I dunno. I can fix a PC, but I can’t build one from scratch.
Yes since the transporters converted mass to energy to mass couldn’t it just shave off a pound or two to make up it’s energy consumption?
Also if the transporters instead of conveting the person to energy and reconstructing them if it took apart the person partical by partical and then reassembled with the same particals (w/o energy conversion) them would they have died and have been ‘cloned’?
Couple of things… there was a discussion on the Bad Astronomy board a few weeks ago about what happens under rapid decompression. NASA’s opinion is that you can retain consciousness for ~9 seconds before you pass out, and they speculate that you might survive as long as 90. But no garauntees on any of that. But you’re right, you don’t just pop. However the air rushing out of your lungs can cause serious damage, as there is a huge pressure differential between the air in your lungs and the nothing outside.
Also, somebody mentioned that all the aliens look like humans with putty. There was a TOS episode where the alien looked like a guy with a carpet on top of him. Remember, and it eats through solid rock. Silicon based lifeform that Spock mindmelds to and discovers is actually just hurting and it needs some concrete to salve the wound? Used to be like, my favorite episode. Especially when Bones says “Damnit Jim, I’m a doctor not a bricklayer.”
Anyway, I have a major pet peeve, too…
Whenever people are flying around outside the ship they navigate by constantly typing in coordinates onto a little keypad to change heading, speed etc. Why don’t they just use a freaking joystick? Want to tilt up, pull back. It’s not just on shuttlecraft, either. In the episode where Wesley catches all sorts of hell for killing a guy in the crack acrobatics team, they pilot their ships through all sorts of complicated maneuvers by constantly typing in that stupid keypad. Sorry, rant over.
Tenebras
Thank you SPOOFE - I needed a good laff.
2 points:
Spacesuits - Chekov and that other keptin are wearing space suits when they stumble upon the Botany Bay, even has a plot point, as Khan puts the brain roaches inside their helmets.
ST:The Loo - in the Voyager PC game expansion pack[sup]1[/sup], you can wander around the ship, and some of the cabins have bathrooms, but no relief for SPOOFE’s Photon Torpedos, they have sinks and big bathtubs (or a ‘sonic’ shower), but no toilets. (BTW - how the heck does a sonic shower work without making you deaf, or something?)
[sup]1[/sup] OK, hand me the “IMA big dweeb” t-shirt. But my sig proves I enjoy real SF.
CarnivorousPlant…
What if you had highly extensive scientific and engineering knowledge, access to all the examination, design, and manufacturing tools that you’d need, and another PC to use as a template?
PlanMan…
I just came up with a theory… what if they use a transporter to remove the waste directly from the human body, and then into a sort of processing system where it’s broken down on a molecular level? Of course, this does bring in two notions… 1. What if the transporter beam is off by, oh, a centimeter? Suddenly you’re missing half of your large intestinal wall… 2. It would literally mean that the Red Shirts “Eat shit and die”.
SPOOFE wrote:
Didn’t you know? All the consoles are rigged with dynamite. It’s Star Fleet’s way of keeping the crew from making data-entry mistakes.
If I broke the template taking it apart, the owner would be really pissed.
Rememeber the tubes that Doc used to make a little bitty IC in Back to the Future?
Give me some rocks and I might be able to make a crystal radio, but not a police scanner.
I don;t know how dissimilair the technology is.