No Avatars Here? Why?

Furbies are Furries with a D cell battery shoved up their bum. Even MLK would not approve (unless it was on the downlow of course).

The number of posts isn’t the problem I brought up-it’s the over-the-top rhetoric in said posts.

Just sayin’.

Exactly, it’s just an option on a message board. One that you wouldn’t notice if it was turned on. It could be on right now for those of us who want it, and you’d never know. So what’s the big deal for you? Why are you so against OTHER people experiencing avatars?

Tell me please, why is it that YOU don’t want ME to see avatars on this board? Have I done something to offend you? Remember now when you answer, the ability for me to see avatars would in NO way change how you see the board, it would look EXACTLY the same as it does now.

Exactly, it’s just an option on a message board. One that you wouldn’t notice if it was turned on. It could be on right now for those of us who want it, and you’d never know. So what’s the big deal for you? Why are you so against OTHER people experiencing avatars?

Tell me please, why is it that YOU don’t want ME to see avatars on this board? Have I done something to offend you? Remember now when you answer, the ability for me to see avatars would in NO way change how you see the board, it would look EXACTLY the same as it does now.

The analogy to gay marriage is not because it is somehow a civil rights violation, it is because there are a group of people here who are adamantly against activating a feature of the boards that will have absolutely no affect on them whatsoever. Just the same way that anti-gay marriage people are adamantly against something that has no affect on them.

And my point is you’ve managed to post nearly ten times as much than fully two-thirds of the people who wanted to make their opinion known in this thread. If it’s “just an option on a message board”, why in the world are you being so obsessive about it?

In the past, this has never gotten a real answer, just a smarmy “Answer a question with a question” style of rebuttal of the sort that 8 year olds consider clever. “Why don’t you tell me why you want them, when you could just go to another messageboard that has them?”

Now that his old tactic of just asking smarmy rhetorical questions has been “exposed”, he’s moved to the “Anyone who disagrees with me is an extremist and no, I don’t understand the concept of analogies, why do you ask?” gambits.

It’s all really sad, actually.

  1. Other people can experience avatars on hundreds of other message boards-they aren’t being denied jack shit.
  2. The owner/operator of this board has said that he would prefer not to have avatars on this board, and I will respect his wishes as a guest here.
  3. This “What did I do to offend you? What do you have against me personally?” attempt to guilt me just ain’t gonna work-you’re not my mother. I don’t think I’ve ever met you, but I have met Mr. Zotti. He’s a nice guy, and if he decides he doesn’t want to deal with avatars at this time for any(or no) reason, more power to him.
  4. Previously in this thread(and in the last thread about this subject) a solution was handed to you on a silver platter…but I’m not hearing a lot of “Gee, thanks! This works great. I’ve got what I want, so bye.” Is it my imagination, but is it the goal of some here not only to get what they seek, but to also get the a concession of defeat from the other side? Crazyhorse went through a bit of effort, but it seems for nought.

So it is your opinion that I’ve probably said enough on the subject? Just to show that this just isn’t because of the particular position I’m taking, are there any on the other side of this debate that you feel should also bow out?

It is unclear to me why you feel the need to be Ed Zotti’s official Champion and Defender of All Things Possibly Detrimental To The Current State Of The Board.

We get it. You don’t want avatars. Other folks don’t either, but it hasn’t taken them thirty posts to feel they’ve adequately expressed themselves. Some folks do. None of them have posted as much as you either.

I think what they’d like to experience is this message board with avatars, not others. I don’t think you can get that elsewhere.

That’s fine. Ed Zotti doesn’t want them so we’re not going to get them, I don’t have a big issue with that, his train set etc. The issue I have is with the reasons given by others about cluttering the boards, lowering the tone and whatever, when all of that is just bullshit. It’s like you guys can’t read or something. If your whole thing in this is really as simple as “Ed doesn’t want them and I support Ed” then ok whatever, but don’t try and pretend there are logical reasons for his position.

I’m not trying to guilt you into anything, I’m really interested to know what you have against someone else experiencing something when it has no affect on you personally.

I didn’t see the previous thread, this is the first I’ve seen of the solution. As I said earlier, I don’t care enough about it to use a different browser that I don’t like, host an image somewhere, and follow the other couple of instructions when I could just tick a box in my User CP.

I never said I was, and if you actually feel that I am presenting myself in such a way why don’t you quit whining about it and report me?

To be honest, what really annoys me, and goaded me into getting into this thread in the first place are the asinine fools who whine about the clutter and make some remark about how they’re not keen on the idea of avatars and how they hope there’d be an option to turn them off, when it has been explained over and over again that the experience for someone who does not care for avatars would be identical to what it is now and that they wouldn’t even have to tick a box, it would be the default. Are these posters illiterate or being intentionally obtuse? I’m bewildered by how common this position is.

I wasn’t aware being a lackey was against the rules. But you would know.

It would take a lot less effort than posting multiple times in this thread.

Didn’t you just say to me that your position is what it is simply because you support Ed Zotti’s position? Presumably if he was for avatars you’d be all “yay lets have avatars!” or something.

My personal position is that:

  1. It would be more work for the moderators, and
  2. It’s the house rules that I agreed to, and I don’t find this rule to be anywhere near unbearable or oppressive.

No it wouldn’t actually. This requires reading and writing, something I can do on autopilot at 5 in the morning. Setting up the avatar work-around would require me to turn my brain on fully and follow instructions and shit, I’m not up for that.

  1. That’s a reasonable objection, though we’ll never know if it really is more work or not.
  2. Given that changing the rule would not affect you, why is it relevant how unbearable or oppressive you find it.

It seems to me that the original position of no avatars was taken by some without an understanding of how innoffensive they could be. Once educated they refused to give any leeway on the issue and preferred to say “nope, I’ve made my decision and that’s that.” To the point where some posters even threaten to leave the board and never return if avatars are allowed. How pathetic is that? “I can’t see what you guys can see, but I know you’re looking at something and I don’t like it, I’m leaving!”

Except that it wouldn’t be. I’ve been on message boards for over 15 years and never have I seen an avatar that needed to be modded, or any discussion of such a thing, except for Something Awful, where they allow some racy ones. I think the people on this board would show a hell of a lot more decorum than most of the other boards on the internet, and not post offensive stuff.

And as said again and again, those who are worried about it, won’t see it.

If it’s just an option on a message board, why are you so opposed?

I wonder, is it considered junior modding to tell someone they’re junior modding?