"No man can kill me." ..."I am no man."... Lets talk semantics, J.R.R.

I have been a Tolkien fan for decades.
Nevertheless, I would enjoy reading your rewrite of the story! :cool:

I have been a Tolkien fan for decades.

Nonetheless, I find “How Lord of the Rings Should Have Ended” to be at least as plausible as the plot of Books 2-6.

I used to be the Witch King and then I took an Arnorian blade in the knee.

As for Weathertop:

A) Even Aragorn is a little confused about why the Nazgul decided not to press the issue
B) The Nazgul are afraid of fire, presumably in part because it has the ability to damage/destroy their physical shapes, which means they have to limp all ghosty back to Mordor to get new cloaks. (Witness: They got crushed by a flood at the Ford of Bruinen, and while it didn’t KILL they, they were certainly deeply inconvenienced.)
C) They figured they were done there anyway - ringbearer stabbed with Morgul Blade. He’ll be a wraith and deliver the ring in a couple of days. It’s not their fault that Hobbits are tough. (and poorly documented.)

I wonder if he could be trampled to death by a man’s horse.

Raging torrent of enchanted water, traffic jam, same ol’ same ol’.

"Haven’t we had games here where we rewrite scenes in the idiom of another writer (as above)? " Um there was a little thread called “If LOTR had been written by somebody else” [or words to that effect]. I think it was the longest and best on the boards.

Yes the witch-king knew the prophecy (don’t have book handy for cite) & was way too sure of himself when fighting against men.

as for the Undead - Aragorn could get the zombie Oathbreakers to fight for him because he was Isildur’s heir. It was a one time deal, then their oath was fulfilled & they could rest in peace. In the books, they helped capture the Corsair fleet, they did NOT fight at Minas Tirith.
I could rant against movie version, in Skald’s absence, but don’t have the time.

I wonder if Aragorn could have curb-stomped the Witch King to death and been all “THAT WAS NO HAND.”

Wow. If you can keep that up for entire sections, that would be my newest favorite read.

Lasciel, and glee, I’m flattered. Perhaps i’ll try it! :slight_smile:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=138905
I have it bookmarked - one of my all time favorites!

True, also it seems like Weathertop had some protective magics left, so that the Ringwraiths were a tad weaker there. So, having done their job, and being faced with fire and thus a long walk home in useless spirit form, they booked out.

I’m doing a horrible thing and ripping this off from a poster named Darth Ember on another board:
"
To: Witch-King
From: Council of Vague Prophecies
RE: Your invulnerability

Dear sir,
We regret to inform you that prophecies are non-refundable. You are of course an important customer and we value your patronage. However, fine print on all Vague Prophecies ™ expressly stipulates that should a loophole be found, all warranties are null and void.
We hope we may be of service to you again, should you resume corporeal existence at any time in the future. Until this eventuality, we are,
Yrs,
The Council of Vague Prophecies.
(“Knowing the unknowable… for you!”) "

cause I thought it was a little brilliant
editing to add: I think I remember reading that Tolkien didn’t like how the prophecies in Macbeth went down, so he invented real moving trees, and the Eowyn-Merry takedown partly in response to them.

Psst, simster. Around here, most people talk about the books, not the movies. Especially when the thread title is addressed directly at J.R.R. (I mean, if you voluntarily use ‘hubris’ in a post, you probably would enjoy the books. Get to it, son. Get to it.)

I seem to recall the suggestion also being made that they were weaker when a long way from home base, and they were pretty far from Mordor at that point.

I just want to comment that I misread this as “The prophecy uttered by Garfunkel…” and figured it must have been written on the subway walls and tenement halls of Middle-Earth, :slight_smile:

hmmm - i have read the books - once, for 2 weeks in 2008 - not sure what part of my post is a reference to the movies at this point.

There’s really no excuse for Weathertop, and Jackson’s failure to omit it or patch it up is one of movie’s bigger flaws.

In Bored of the Rings, that character does indeed get called Garfinkel.

“Frodo lives!”