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Stone and Parker said awhile ago that they were going to do an episode on atheism. To not do it would be contrary to the show’s principle of mocking everyone equally.
Everyone likes it when someone else’s ox is being gored…
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But they don’t mock everyone equally. Some of their mocking is on-target and pertinent; some is just outright ignorance and bigotry. It’s as if they said, “Republicans are anti-gay! Muslims get offended too easily! Oh, and niggers are stupid.”
Hey! How can black people be offended? They mock everyone equally, right?
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But they don’t mock everyone equally. Some of their mocking is on-target and pertinent; some is just outright ignorance and bigotry.
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I actually tend to agree with this; but I also note that people rarely identify on-target and pertinent satire of themselves and/or ignorant and bigoted satire of other groups. Instead it’s usually the mocking of “other people” that’s okay, but the line is crossed when it’s my group that gets it.
The depiction of anti-evolutionary thought in that episode, for example, was by no means fair or accurate (though funny as hell). And yet, nobody on the SDMB would criticize that. Wonder why?
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a) I would submit it was more Catholic-mocking than anything else
b) Is there some Rule of Comedy that they can only hit a given group/issue once?
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Dude, it had plenty of atheism mocking too. That whole subplot about eating with your butt and crapping out your mouth. And no, there’s no rule, but why would they say they were going to do an episode about atheism when they already did?
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The depiction of anti-evolutionary thought in that episode, for example, was by no means fair or accurate (though funny as hell). And yet, nobody on the SDMB would criticize that. Wonder why?
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Actually, I’d say it was about as fair and accurate a depiction as you can get on South Park (where things are exaggerated for comedic effect, with things like “had butt sex with this other retarded fish” and having him actually fling feces at Dawkins instead of just complaining verbally) of a large percentage of anti-evolutionists – the kind who don’t really know anything about evolution but who object because they don’t like the idea of being related to monkeys, and who think that if evolution is true it means people have a license to do whatever they want.
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Dude, it had plenty of atheism mocking too. That whole subplot about eating with your butt and crapping out your mouth. And no, there’s no rule, but why would they say they were going to do an episode about atheism when they already did?
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Yeah, I’d say “Red Hot Catholic Love” was more atheist mocking then Catholic mocking. The things going on with the giant spider was more like critiques of the church, not jokes at its expense.
Kinda like how the “they’re taking our jorbs” episode was mocking red-neck americans.
Seemed to me that Dawkins was there to show his athiest view, and it was Garrison’s insane anti-thiesm (after getting banged by Dawkins) that caused everything. Garrison just went from batshit insane anti-evolution to batshit insane anti-thiesm.
Because Garrison is just batshit insane.
-Joe
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And apparently Garrison’s zealot conversion is what led to the all-atheist world of the 25th Century. Presumably she’ll convert back in the conclusion, which will put a stop to all that. Maybe.
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I thought it was kind of a hatchet job on atheists, and not a very clever one either. They’re beating on straw men. Very few atheists would try to argue that evolution disproves God and very few want to eliminate religion.
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My first instinct was to respond and say “they’re attacking straw men on the other side too, by implying that anti-evolutionists portray evolution as retarded fish-squirrels buttfucking monkies”, but then I thought - how much of a straw man is that? There doesn’t seem to be a rational anti-evolutionary view, so an irrational, anger-fueled attack portrayed by Ms Garrison might not be much of a straw man.
Sorry for the double post, but on reflection I think I have to clarify: that link does NOT show any heads being crushed by sea otters. Just so you know…
I loved the FSM making it into the episode. I would love to see it make it into the second part as an actual entity. I think I saw the IPU as Cartman was rotating into the future.
Jim
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I know this is late, but I just saw both episodes last night, so I just came to this thread. What is FSM & IPU?