Okay, I disagree.
All right, then.
I have to admit, I’m curious. Please spill the beans.
I’m betting this is supposed to be the ‘brilliance’ of Chief Justice Roberts – “the best way to stop discrimination is to stop discriminating”.
In fact, all problems can be approached this way: “ISIS, stop terrorizing”. Problem solved. “Drug dealers, stop dealing drugs”. Bingo. “Corrupt people, stop being corrupt”. Awesome.
Done and done. Problems solved.
The Chief Justice is correct.
How easy it is to solve our problems then. I wonder how any remain, when it’s so easy.
What’s your evidence for that being the best way? And, since you dismiss the role the particulars of the situation might have to play, the best way in nigh all circumstances?
Well not drafting Israeli Arabs is bad, and someday, when Israeli Arabs stop sympathizing with Israel’s enemies, that practice can stop.
Then work to assure Israeli Arabs that Israel’s enemies are theirs as well. Work to assure them that are valued as citizens equally with their Jewish neighbors. Well, “neighbor” is probably an exaggeration. More’s the pity.
Or is this already the case, and they simply refuse to accept it? Is that your premise, Terr? That they are already accepted and valued equally, but are just too stubborn to admit it?
They all do? Or just some of them? And which enemies? I sympathize with Palestinian children (and their parents) who live peacefully and have very little chance at getting out of poverty, while opposing any Palestinians who commit violence. Do I sympathize with Israel’s enemies? And undoubtedly many other Jews, including some Jews in Israel, share some sympathies with Israeli Arabs.
It’s this sort of sweeping generalization that leads to me to the belief that you might just have some biases of your own against big groups of people.
Those who do not can volunteer for military service. As for “sweeping generalizations” - do ALL Affirmative Action recipients need it? Or just some of them?
I’m sure of course that **D’Anconia ** is utterly disgusted by Israel’s racist immigration laws as well as the way the Israeli government gave control of much of Israel’s land to a quasi-government organization, the JNF, which openly discriminates against the native population of Israel.
Or US racist immigration laws? Or German racist immigration laws? Or Greek racist immigration laws? etc. etc. I mean, US has (gasp!) quotas on immigration from different places, and Germans and Greeks have those “laws of return” that discriminate based on ethnicity!
LOL. The “quasi-government” organization is actually private and solicits donations as a private organization for buying the land, the “much” is 13% and the “native population” mostly came to the area after Jews started immigrating. But otherwise - yes, correct.
Oh, one more - Israel didn’t “give” JNF control of the land. JNF actually bought the land. With those donations from Jews everywhere. Both before 1948 (they owned about 1000 km^2 by 1948) and after (another 1000 km^2 or so).
Some of them, probably. Since we have to err on one side or the other, I think erring on this side is better than the alternative.
And the connection between the two topics? Ah, right, liberals and lefties! Of course! For a while, there, I was having trouble seeing the obvious connection. In both cases, people who’s opinions you don’t like disagree with you. So, in that sense, they are virtually identical.
Actually nobody believes Joan Peters fantasies anymore. Even Daniel Pipes has distanced himself from her claptrap.
Beyond that you’ll notice the early Zionists regularly referred to the Arabs as “natives”.
Are you saying they were wrong?
All you have to do is look at last names. Some of the biggest clans. Al-Masri, Al-Afgani, Mughrabi, Al-Djazair, Al-Yamani, Hourani, Tarabulsi, Bardawil, Turki, Bushnak, Lubnani, Hindi, Halabi, Nashahibi, Zoabi, Al-Kurd, etc. etc. etc. All point to where they came from. And all not “native”. You’re supposedly the big “expert” - you didn’t know that?
Maybe nothing. I just really love Armenian Genocide threads. I don’t participate, I just pop my popcorn, sit back, and watch the fireworks.
Nothing. I’m playing to the Peanut Gallery who don’t know you.
I’m not suggesting that we reverse history. What I want is Israel to recognize that their fathers and grandfathers screwed up and left a problem for them to clean up. Refugee camps are no way to fix the problem for generations and generations, world without end. It’s time to take off their ties and roll up their sleeves and work on it. From what I’ve seen of Israeli politicians, at least, they’re already dressed for it. Ah, Casual Friday, five days a week. Gotta admire a country with such a dress code. 
Outrage fatigue, to start. Or kaizen. (You want cliches, you’ve come to the right guy.) You cannot solve all the world’s problems at once. You need to triage the problems, and Israel and Palestine are where most of the shooting is. You fix that and you can use it to embarrass some of the others into doing it themselves. Repairing Israel and Palestine can be done. Look at Northern Ireland. Thirty years ago they had the same shit going on there, but they sat down and fixed it.
There was a time, people named Smith were metalworkers, people named Fletcher were people who attached feathers to arrows. Which is to say, family names may reflect the origin of families in the long term. Someone in Bill O’Reilly’s ancestral tree very likely came from Ireland, someone named Al-Afgani had an ancestor who came from Afgan.
And, of course, “native” derives from “natal”, as in birthplace. Everyone born in Israel is a “native” of Israel. I’m not imagining you as a big “expert” but I’d be willing to bet you knew that. Wouldn’t give odds.