No, the Left is not anti-Semitic (Good grief!)

I was talking about the obnoxiousness of historical German nationalism in Central Europe. Apparently that’s too painful, so you’re trying to evade the point.

Do…do you really think the Finns help your argument?

Finns largely break down into two or three distinct language groups. Estonians, for all their noisy nationalism, tolerate a huge number of ethnic Russians. If only you were Finns or Estonians!

I don’t know enough about Hungary and Bulgaria to compare those.

I’m not going to defend the nationalism of the Japanese.

And hey, if you really want to say, “We’re just like the Turks and the Greeks!” OK, you’re like the Greeks trying to prevent the Cham from moving home, and the pro-Turkicization movement in Anatolia. Whoo, you must be so proud.

Keep comparing yourselves to German and Turkish nationalists. I think that’s a great plan.

I probably do need to do a better job of constantly complaining about Turkey. I’m sorry.

I think it’s possible to see Goldman Sachs specifically as parasitic, and parasitic regardless of whether it’s being presently run by a Jew or a Christian, without making that an indictment of Jews, or even wealthy Jews, in general.

Eh, I don’t know about websites. Can anyone answer this?

I would hypothesize that, in the USA, strongly anti-Jewish online communities tend to get pulled, if not toward the “far right,” toward some kind of “nationalist” movement (for example, a heavily black site isn’t going to slip toward Stormfront, but maybe toward the Nation of Islam); and strongly social democratic online communities tend to get pulled away from anti-Jewish rhetoric. In Europe it may be entirely different. I welcome counter-examples in any case.

I’m coming to agree with you on this. Radical nationalism seems to have been a mess all around.

How do you say, “part of the problem” in Czech? :stuck_out_tongue:

Don’t know, don’t care. My people were from the Sudetenland. :stuck_out_tongue:

I love how, when we start caring about ethnic nations and ethnicity, the divisions start getting finer and finer. Soon everybody will be hating everybody! Wouldn’t that be grand?

Just the kind of thing a Suddy would say!

But it doesn’t have to be that way. I like that we’re all different. Do you remember that *Twilight Zone *episode where they convince all the men to have surgery to look like Gig Young? I used to have nightmares about it when I was a kid.

www.democraticunderground.com - lots and lots of antisemitism. Undisguised.

From some googling (I’m not terribly familiar with DU – my liberal website of choice is Talking Points Memo and occasionally Daily Kos), I found a few anti-semitic comments, some criticism of those comments, and lots and lots of discussions on DU about anti-semitism in DU.

Thank you, Terr. Any others?

Sure. DailyKos:

This is the bidding of a farewell formed in the extension of a middle finger by the militantly atheistic Luciferian Ashkenazic Jewish sect that - resolved they be - believe in - by genetic predisposition and/or indoctrination from birth - supremacism of the Master Race, because they have accomplished the goal of procreating State of Israel to dominate in hegemony by the art of seduction, after centuries of persecution and expulsion on charge of treason by subversion of host nations, blood rituals in human sacrifice of Gentile children, corruption and ravishing of women, conspiracy to injure and murder esteemed officers & rulers and usurious & fraudulent deed in union with the spiritual descendants of the wicked Jews of the extinct Sadducee sect, the persecutor and abetted executioner of Jesus Christ, propagating fruition of the species as the “Chosen One” and bringing the world to its knees without mercy for subservience and obedience by slavery (brainwash) and tyranny.

How about this Pat Oliphant cartoon - that was on New York Times website.

Anyone can post on Daily Kos, and most of the response to this post was very harsh disapproval.

In fact, on my phone at least, I can’t find any more record of that poster and I think he might have been banned. So a single antisemitic post that doesn’t seem to have been tolerated is not a sign that antisemitism is tolerated.

It’s still up. For 7 years. Kos doesn’t hesitate to remove diaries he doesn’t like. Not this one though.

I’m unaware of Kos deleting a post due to ideological disagreement, even for bigotry. The poster was banned. Sounds similar to the way the SDMB handles it.

there are many, many more.

From the notes, those were different moderators with different reasoning. I don’t know why this one wasn’t deleted, but considering the poster was banned, and nearly all of the response was negative, I’m unconvinced that DK is tolerant of antisemitism.

Of course you aren’t.

I’ll never stop loving you, Terr.

With all my body and soul.

Two polls at DailyKos:

First one: Do you agree with Hugo Chavez that Israel is a genocidal, killer state?

Yes 51% 84 votes
No 48% 78 votes

Then, the second one that is supposed to show that the first one was skewed and that DailyKos is not as antisemitic as that shows:

Yes, Chavez is right 35% 54 votes
No, Chavez is high 54% 83 votes
No, but I voted “Yes” last night because I dislike AB 9% 15 votes

Sure, not a majority. But 35%.