People can’t go get pap smears on the same days they do abortions? They just say, “No pap smears today, only abortions!”? Is that even true about all the abortions being scheduled on one day? I find that kind of hard to believe–I’d definitely be a little irritated if it were the case. If that one day doesn’t work for you, you don’t have any other days of the week to schedule.
Sounds good.
Your use of ‘after’ to end the sentence made me suspect that you were a fellow Canuck. I checked your profile, only to discover that today is your first day, and this thread is your first thread, and that you’ve only made four posts. You certainly picked a curious thread to sidle in on.
Anyway, allow me to say welcome to the Dope moejoe. I hope you like it here. There are some odd initiation rites, but the nightmares will taper off after.
Well, they do call it Planned Parenthood.
Odd Thread is my middle name. Well, no not really. Thanks for the welcome. I’ve been reading here for a long time, but I’m looking forward to the hazing now that I’m out and about.
Wait - do other nationalities not use “after” that way? It sounded perfectly normal to me.
And -
“Excuse me, ma’am, you dropped your fetus.” 
ETA: Hi, moejoe. You seem to have waded in the deep end. 
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It sounded perfectly normal to me.
heh, I don’t think anyone has ever called me that before.
You are a Canadian, and a damn fine one, I might add.
I on the other hand, moved to Canada but grew up in the South, and ‘after’ was not used in this fashion that I recall. I always think of it as a Canadian thing, although now that I think about it, I would not be surprised if they said it in Fargo or Vermont or someplace up in the Northern US as well. Perhaps I should start a separate thread on this issue. Or perhaps lassitude and ennui will overtak
Aw, damn, it looks like lassitude and ennui got another one.
Hey, moejoe, I said it sounded perfectly normal; I didn’t say you were. 
I can think of at least one Doper, and if her crystal ball is working she should show up shortly.
Welcome moejoe good to have you.
Ah memories, the OP reminds me of an experience I had.
When I was in high school I was a volunteer at a hospital. A sort-of-candy-striper. I was leaving work one day and changed into street clothes to meet some friends. One of the doctors asked me if I would please drop some important papers off at another office on my way home. I said yes.
He gave me the paperwork and told me where I needed to go. It was a medical office building and I was to go to the 3rd floor and just slide the envelope under the door since the office was closed as it was a Saturday.
What I didn’t know and he didn’t realize was that an abortion clinic was on the first floor of the medical building. I got there and parked my car. I got out and was walking to the entrance when I was descended upon by anti-abortion protesters.
One lady came up and said “Please talk to me before you go in. I’d like to change your mind.” and I asked her what she meant. She said enough to me that I understood she thought I was there for an abortion. I told her why I was there and she moved back. Not so for the rest of them. They were yelling things like “Whore” and “Murderer” and “Close your legs and swallow next time.”
I was screaming (I was 16 and dumb) at them to shut up because I wasn’t there to go to the clinic but none of them would listen and just kept yelling stuff and showing me pics of dead babies. At that age and time I was terrified but I got in and did what I needed and got out.
The dumbasses yelled at me all the way back to the car, too. I guess they figured I had a quickie 5-minute abortion.
Not only should the eighth-month pregnant woman walk, slowly, past the protestors, she should chug from a bottle of Jack Daniels (refilled with water or tea) the whole time.
I used to be an escort for a women’s clinic (not Planned Parenthood, by the way, another one). At that clinic, I think that there were two days a week that were set aside for doing abortions. However, women could and did get other procedures done during those days.
I used to be an escort for a women’s clinic (not Planned Parenthood, by the way, another one). At that clinic, I think that there were two days a week that were set aside for doing abortions. However, women could and did get other procedures done during those days.
One of the things that the clinic made sure to do was to get the patient alone, and ask if SHE wanted the abortion. If she didn’t, then the clinic refused to perform the procedure.
The protesters, by the way, usually were yelling the nastiest things at any woman who dared to go past them. However, their solution for avoiding pregnancy was mostly for the women not to have sex, period, even if they were married. That’s right, they were anti-abortion, anti-birth control, and anti-sex. I was able to talk to some of them. One time I had a woman tell me that she didn’t want to go through with the abortion, that her boyfriend was pressuring her to do so. I was able to find one of the sympathetic protesters, who was willing to give this woman some resources. Most of them, however, would have just told her to go through with the pregnancy on her own, and raise her baby or give it up for adoption somehow.
Please note that I never said anything to the woman about what she was there for. I only pointed out the wrong and illegal actions of the protestor.
Yes, I would consider being touched by a protestor a violent act. The anti-abortion movement has proved itself over and over to be a violent, terroristic group. Did you ever hear of a “pro-abortion” person killing a “pro-life” person? Burning down an adoption agency?
I love how they tell people aborion WILL have all these effects, yet their printed material is full of “can…might…maybe.”
Besides their violence, my two biggest complaints about the anti-abortion movement are:
Most of them only support adoption to the right people; i.e. married couples… I wish women wold stop having aborions and start only letting gays and lesbians adopt their children. That would certainly put a spoke into the protestor’s wheels.
They see no good in abortion and no harm in adoption. They think a woman should be able to give birth and just hand the baby over like a sack of potatoes and go on with her life like nothing happened. I can’t image anything more delusional and callous.
Anyone who lies to me about matters concerning my health, welfare, and other private choices is going to get an earful.
That’s really funny, as I am sitting here with a broken wrist and a cast. Now where’s my travel mug? Having only one functioning hand, I can use it!
Funny, I don’t remember saying that. Or seeing it. In fact, that phrase doesn’t even show up in this thread, so I’m not sure where that came from.
I don’t think she was attempting to misquote you. I think part of her message got spliced into your quote. It might be a problem with typing the (QUOTE) (/QUOTE) tags, since she only has one hand. Very decent of you not to get upset about it.
Ummm, this was not the case when a close family member of mine went there for an abortion some years back.
I’ve never seen a poll or known anyone, personally, who would “get so hung up on abortion and forget the rest.” I don’t know anyone who is “pro-abortion”.
The vast majority of people think it should be the last resort and strongly support all ways to prevent abortion. That’s why there’s always such a big political deal about sex education and teen pregnancies.
Not directed to Shot specifically: As others have said that’s what Planned Parenthood is all about. It was started with the main objective of providing birth control and being educated on how to use it. It’s sad that ignorance and the misinformation campaign by anti-choice advocates has given people this impression.
According to wikipedia:
PPFA is a federation of 89 independent Planned Parenthood affiliates around the United States. These affiliates together operate 850 locations, offering a variety of information and procedures to more than three million people, including: abortion, contraceptives (birth control); emergency contraception; screening for breast, cervical and testicular cancers; pregnancy testing and pregnancy options counseling; testing and treatment for sexually transmitted diseases; comprehensive sexuality education, menopause treatments; vasectomies and tubal ligations, and more. Not all procedures are available at all locations.
Planned Parenthood describes itself as “the nation’s leading sexual and reproductive health care advocate and provider.” In 2007, contraception constituted 36% of total services, STI/STD testing and treatment constituted 31%, cancer testing and screening constituted 17%; other women’s health procedures, including pregnancy, prenatal, midlife, and infertility were 11%, and approximately 3% of total procedures involved surgical and medical abortions.[6] Planned Parenthood affiliates performed 305,310 medical and surgical abortions in 2007, up from 289,750 in 2006.[7]
The pdf file is available in reference [7]
You know, if you’d actually read the thread, you’d see that my initial post on the subject was in direct response to a question about “what was wrong with the ‘pro-choice’ label.” I wasn’t just coming out of fucking left field and saying HAY GUSY LETS USE SUM NEW WERDS KK?! Someone asked what kind of problem someone might potentially have with the “pro-choice” label, and I gave my personal reasoning. And then people’s panties got in a big fucking wad, because apparently there was some sand caught in ye olde D&C apparatus or something.
Apparently it’s also made you ILLITERATE, because you skimmed straight fucking past my post well prior to the one you made, where I explicitly said:
So do us all a favor and get a fucking pack of smokes before you melt down into *complete *retarditude.
See, this is the kind of shit I’m talking about when I say “pro-choice.” This woman *should *have been able to keep the baby if she really wanted to, or she *should *have had better access to birth control to keep from getting pregnant in the first place.
And it only took you *three fucking abortions *to figure that out? Thank god for the gene pool that the kids didn’t make it the full gestation period, or the collective IQ of the human race probably would have dipped a good three points.
Just because you may think that a decision wasn’t the right one for you personally to have made doesn’t mean that you can’t think that other people don’t also have the right to make it. Er, if that makes any sense.
Just for that, I want to go out, get pregnant, gestate for eight months, walk up to a group of protestors, and self-abort with a coat hanger. Who wants to play sperm donor?
A good subset of it, yes. However, there *are *pro-life people (as distinct from merely anti-abortion-legality people) who aren’t completely fucking insane.
Really, I wish the pro-life movement could somehow extricate itself from the stranglehold of the religious right. *Then *we might actually be able to all work together toward what should be our common goal–making abortion a rare occurence.