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I think not: the truly classy person is as comfortable in the humblest hovel as in the finest castle.
If it’s any consolation, my first thought way back on page 1 was “BYRUS!!!”
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I’ve always wondered if your username is from The Stand…so…is it?
Says you. Though I’ll freely admit, Dreamcatcher was far from a literary achievement for Mr. King.
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Add in the sentiment in her next post, and the case for classist elitism (or is it elitist classism) becomes stronger.
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Well, I think there’s enough to convict her of snobishness on the subject matter alone. From there, elitism is within acceptable distance for hyperbole.
And, since she won’t come back to the thread to defend herself, we get to make up anything we want about her.
I heard she’s an assassin for the CIA, and was personally responsible for killing Salvador Allende.
Slyfrog, you have to be extremely credulous to NOT read these two pieces of text as classist: (bolding mine)
The only way you can read this as NOT classist is if you believe her on the facts. She’s had multiple workers come over and do terrible things in her bathroom. On the other hand she’s never had “people” do this to her. (And by “people” she apparently means “not workers.”) Workers are stinky and rude, people aren’t.
In another part she makes it clear that this whole pitting is really an indictment of not just one flatulent carpet cleaner, but of workers in general (or anyway a subset thereof). Or even if it didn’t start that way, she’s willing to broaden her attack:
- Great username.
- [PC Overload]CLASSIST?[/pco]
- So, the only way we can accept that she’s telling the truth is if we accept that she’s telling the truth. Huh?
Here’s the thing. I’ve had my house remodeled a couple times. Both times I was home all day (maternity leave & working from home.) I got pretty damn tired of workmen tramping through my house, taking stuff out of my fridge, and spending unreal amounts of time in my bathroom, which precluded me from spending any time in my bathroom.
Granted, I grit my teeth and bore it, but my bathroom is my personal space. It was offensive to have it infringed upon daily for extended periods of time. I’m thinking this may be what’s happening, but hard to tell without the OP’s corroboration. Certainly having guests over for dinner or whatever is going to be different. They’re not likely to excuse themselves from the table, seclude themselves in your john and take a big ol’ nasty dump for 20 minutes. One does not do that in polite company, does one? I’m pretty sure that’s the distinction she’s making, not necessarily looking down her nose on “manual labor.”
Mo, you need to read the whole thread again, I think. Skip over the silly things and the outright flames, and you’ll see quite a few workers (like me, remember?) making some very good points.
Yeah, hon, I know. And, like I said, without her corroboration, it’s hard to tell. All I can go off of is my own experience, which was nerve straining to say the least. You of all people know how long a remodel job can take.
But it would be nice if she could at least come back and clarify her position…
And we have to admit, some “workers” are pretty vile. I know, I’ve had to work with some and have been in a position to fire others. So there is always the possility open that this particlar worker was not a self respecting tradesman, but was indeed gauche, gross, and boorish.
As it stands now, tho, we only have a little bit to go on. The fact that it has lasted this long in the Pit is really somewhat surprising, even to me.
Well… some “people” can be pretty vile. “Workers” or otherwise. Some people have no idea that they smell. I’ve been told that one of the techs down in the lab does this on a daily basis in the downstairs washroom. That patients have to use. We’ve bought Lysol, hoping he’ll get a clue but… damn.
Thank you
You have to be careful to use the PC term. Snobs are very sensitive.
Uh yes. Is this what you meant to say?
To reply to what I think you meant to say. I’ll stipulate that if her description of her experience is the objective truth (workers have stunk up her bathroom every time they’ve been there and no one else has), then that part is not in and of itself classist. You believe her version.
FTR, I didn’t mean vile as in smelly, sweat and a poor lunch choice can cause that in anyone. By vile, I meant a person repugnant in their attitude and general manners. I once had a guy working for me that would yell out spanish obscenities to passers by (in a hispanic neighbourhood), esp young women. He was good looking, a good tradesman (more or less), but was an ass. I informed him I didn’t want him doing that on my jobsite. He smarted off to me, and it seems he didn’t know I spoke spanish, thus I knew damn well what he said to these poor people, even tho he lied to me about his ‘greetings’. So, I fired him. Because he was acting in a way that caused my jobsite reproach and scorn. If I had fired him because his shit stunk, that would be silly.
That’s the point I was hoping I was making. Apparantly I pulled a Scott Plaid, sorry.
It’s happened, hasn’t it? It’s entered the lexicon.
Poor child, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry for him.
Nope, although I loves me that Nicky.
You wanna hear my take? (Why not? We’ve heard from every other member of the Dope in this thread so far. )
sat on cookie has poop issues, which are not unusual in the general population. A friend of ours admits freely she’d throw anything out that fell in a toilet.
For soc, I believe her poop issues are magnified when they are stranger poops. I would like to believe that her unfortunate choice of words were meant to indicate strangers, rather than workers, but, as so many people have pointed out, she has never returned to clarify anything, so we are forced to take her words at face value.
Oh well. We got lieu expounding on poo again, and that’s always worth the price of admission.
I think that’s a highly likely possibility. I think it is also highly likely that the only real strangers who are routinely taking 15 minute dumps in her house are workers. Perhaps I’m odd, but other than the occassional plumber or handyman, I do not typically have unknown people using my bathroom.
Of course it still freaks me out a bit when people I know disappear in there for 15 minutes. I guess I think that if it’s not your own bathroom, then it’s not the time to take the long, slow, reading break dump. But again, I’m freely admitting that could just be me.
My answer is yes, polite, upstanding people do defecate in the homes of acquaintances when attending any sort of gathering. Making all possible haste and using all means handy to eliminate any lingering odors goes without saying.
Dinner guests may well have to #2 right after dinner. They might not hole themselves up for 20 minutes, though. Does it make a difference for you if it’s a 2-minute military poop, as opposed to hunkering down and doing the NYT crossword on the can (given equal amounts of stench)?
I’d think the holing up for 20 minutes (aside from medical issues, “aftershocks”, etc.) is more rude in and of itself than the mere act of defecation.