Not entirely true. They can also be stupid or uninformed. There are a ton of people out there that say that everything bad about Trump was just a lie by the mainstream media. And, of course, there are people who started paying attention to the election a week before it happened.
Still, it is true that at least half of them are racist, probably more. But, the problem is, we have to be all PC to win them to our side now, and pretend that being indifferent to racism isn’t itself a form of racism.
Right now, we are actually once again facing the actual blatant racists, and we need to focus on them again, and let the rest think they aren’t being racist.
Cool. Us newly categorized racists will continue ignoring the less vocal minorities and focus on actually hating the loud-mouthed idiots like BLM’ers and their ilk.
More likely the so-called “newly categorized racists” will cheer on the mobs when they storm black neighborhoods, kill everyone they see and burn everything to the ground; just like the good old days. That’s where we’re headed.
Are you referring to my environmentalist ilk, or my civil rights ilk? I have a few other ilks, as well. Want me to list them so you can pick the one you find most convenient or vulnerable to insult?
Such people do not and cannot exist. Voting for Trump was an act of racism, therefore anyone who voted for Trump is a racist. It’s like looking for pacifist murderers.
Most of us have prejudices, sometimes rational, sometimes irrational. When I can control my grief and anger, I realize that my prejudice against Trump voters is not fully rational.
Anger and accusations of bigotry against Trump voters who don’t fully deserve it causes them to direct further anger against rational thinkers. Polarization escalates.
Oh please, sucking up to them just encourages them to be more vicious. If they voted for Trump and the Republicans then they are already willing to see those “rational thinkers” imprisoned or killed. People voted for Trump because they wanted fascism, and they’ll get it.
Refusing to acknowledge just how much bigotry and malice is out there is one of the reasons the election was lost. Pretending that they are anything but enemies won’t make their hatred and cruelty go away. Pretending that they don’t know what they are doing won’t change the fact that they know* exactly* what they are doing.
Too late. Look around. “We” have been polarized for years. It’s just that people don’t care enough to pretend otherwise anymore. It just got more obvious. You think all the hate just suddenly and magically appeared?
Your mode of thinking is exactly the one that brought about the victory for Trump in the first place and it is not helpful in bringing people to your side.
It is comforting for you I’m sure to label everyone who voted Trump as a racist and supporter of fascism but even in your most mouth-frothing moments you can’t possibly believe that.
You use a sweeping generalisation to just as much toxic effect as Trump and his goons.
There is a not-insignificant portion of voters that could have been swayed to a more liberal position through stronger argument and a better candidate
A polarised debate is exactly what arseholes like Trump want. That drives people into his tiny hands. Reasoned debates and nuanced postions is what gets you access to the middle ground and it is the middle ground that gets you elected. Especially in such a binary system as that within the US
Do you think the middle ground will respond well to being told “if you are even considering voting any other way than democrat you are a racist a fascist and a bigot”?
Many people did not vote “yes to Trump” they voted “no to Clinton”.
The two are entirely different mindsets.
You can make a case for such voters being ill-informed or short-termist and not fully thinking through the consequences of their actions.
But if you want to win those people back then focusing on informing them and offering better options and outcomes is exactly what you should do.
Writing them off as irredeemable and evil may be cathartic but it merely guarantees a continuation of the current situation. Screaming “BIGOT! RACIST! FASCIST!” in their face does not give them an easy option for transitioning back to a more moderate postion.
On the contrary, it’s trying to pretend that the other side is civilized and reasonable that has let them systematically become more and more powerful until now it’s too late to do anything about it. Nor does it matter if people are on my side or not; we’ve just put people who hate democracy in control of our democracy. There’s no way that they’ll let another serious election happen again.
Of course I believe it. Voting for Trump was by definition a racist act that supported fascism. Supporting fascism is what makes you a supporter of fascism, and that’s what a vote for Trump and the Republicans was.
Because of course venting my depression and anger on a message board is exactly the same as death threats and praising white nationalism & Nazism.
What “middle ground”? “Oh, we’ll only beat black people halfway to death”?
And yes, I think Hillary would have won if the Democrats had been willing to use stronger language, and not make it clear that they consider the lives and welfare of women and minorities as less important than the tender feelings of white bigots. So people who would have otherwise have voted Democrat stayed home and didn’t bother, and now the right wing fanatics are in control.
And people are *still *whining about how we shouldn’t hurt their feelings. It’s OK to openly praise the Nazis, but a horrible, terrible thing to say that doing so is racist.
Nonsense, you are suggesting a coup. Can’t happen and won’t happen. The election will happen in 4 years time at which point a better case needs to be put by the democrats.
You are defining your own terms here. “A vote for Trump makes you a racist, therefore only a racist could vote for Trump” it is clearly nonsense and only serves to alienate further.
You paint everyone that voted one way with the same brush. That is nonsensical and counter-productive. and you just did it again…right there. Be as depressed and as angry as you like if it makes you feel good but railing against the world won’t make it better.
FFS, you know how to read and comprehend a sentence, don’t lower yourself to the real Trump troglodyte level.
Clearly I mean the “middle ground” of political opinion that millions in the USA hold. The “middle ground” that can reasoned with and whose votes can change, the “middle ground” of youth voters that can be amenable to reason and argument.
So further polarising politics is the way to go? that’s the better political process?
Shit no, hurt the feelings of the truly bigoted and racist all you want, I’ll join you. I get the whiff of fascism from Trump just as surely as you do. I just do not accept that the outcome is irretrievable or the effects unavoidable and that your position is in any way helpful in fighting against it.
