(bolding mine)
We all worry about something. I, on the other hand, worry that the young progressive potential voters will be turned off by the constant pandering to those supposed middle-aged swing voters and say, “Fuck it. Same shit, different day” and not vote. Again.
To the extent this may be the case, it’s an unintended consequence on his part. Sometimes it’s okay to agree in principal on an issue with someone you otherwise completely disagree with. Also, motives and context matters.
Not to go off on tangents, but as an atheist I would have to agree with a deist about the possibility of existence of god. Now, I’d arrive at that conclusion from an entirely different direction and out understanding of scale of “possibility of existence” is dramatically different. But at the end of the day, is my admission “providing cover” for the deists/theists? I submit that it is far from it. Furthermore, I would be arguing in a dishonest, even disingenuous, fashion if I refused to admit that at the ‘risk’ of strengthening their argument. Integrity matters.
I think Maher is exaggerating what he describes as a ‘wokeness’ problem with liberals. But he’s not completely wrong as it is an extant phenomenon on social media. Also, it’s his pet peeve and he has a forum in which to express it. It’s fine to criticize him for it. Can’t argue with you there. But, as I’ve explained, it weakens your argument to say that it’s because you don’t want to lend cover to the worst of right-wing assholes like Carlson. People, including progressives, need to learn (and be trusted) to think for themselves, and to distinguish nuanced/contextual arguments without drawing the bright lines of ‘with us or against us’, like you appear to be doing in this case.
Okay. I criticize him because I think he’s mostly wrong on this issue, but also because his mostly wrongness in this case is lending cover to the worst of the worst (and wrongest of the wrong) in politics.
So to recap: kid is called out in newspaper article for eight year old racist tweets, some people on the internet criticize him for this. Newspaper which broke story received terrorist threats of violence against their staff, requiring them to hire extra security. And in the eyes of the SDMB conservatives, the villain here is…the newspaper!
Racists threatening arson and murder apparently isn’t a problem for these folks, but liberals expressing opinions on the internet is the end of the fucking world. Got it.
No-one’s actually commented on that bolded part one way or the other. So why did you say it?
For my part, I didn’t comment on it because I didn’t know about it until literally just now. Now that I do, I have no hesitation in saying that terrorist threats are bad and people shouldn’t do them. I’ll also note that no SDMB conservatives have said that terrorist threats are a good response to overzealous twitter policing, but several SDMB liberals have defended overzealous twitter policing, saying it’s no big deal.
So, to recap: SDMB liberals think it’s cool to fuck with people over dumb tweets they made when they were a kid. SDMB conservatives don’t. That’s as far as the conversation has gone. Anything beyond that is pure projection on your part, and your post is just a massive straw man.
No big deal. We all make mistakes. Just apologise and we can move on.
Hey, don’t blame me for your shitty arguing skills and your admissions of dishonesty. That stuff’s on you. 
Always amusing to see a massive straw man in the same paragraph as complaints about straw men.
I figured the “So to recap” was kind of a clue that I did that on purpose
Ahh, carry on then with your straw man arguments.
Not seeing what you think is so “cringey” or “awkward” about it. A race/ethnicity isn’t like, say, a high school sports team where you’re under a social obligation to prefer your own team to all others.
If somebody instead thinks of their race/ethnicity as more like, say, a type of cuisine that doesn’t happen to be their personal favorite—as in, “I like our own culinary traditions okay but I’d rather have more Japanese restaurants around”—I don’t see why you should “cringe” about their preference.
And especially if they feel that there are currently a lot of shitty cooks in their own culinary tradition making the food taste terrible, then their preference for a different culinary tradition is not at all unreasonable.
“Guy Fieri turned me into a liberal race-traitor!”
Maher seemed funny when I last watched him before the Y2K bug but I’ve mostly avoided TV since then. From what I read, woo-woos will say he is wrong, that deep-down he chose his ethnicity from the ova and sperm available. Yes, the Force was with him. But the Force seems bent on fucking-over arbitrary groups.
AFAIK I did not choose to be a Cherokee-Venusian hybrid but we’re the best anyway. That’s a joke. What’s NOT a joke is the prospect of biomedical advances letting a human revise their own gender, ethnicity, form, and even species, with body and brain rebuilds. Rich folks get that first. Will the poor (all sorts) get leftovers?
Huh. Definitely points I had not considered.
Don’t mind me - I just came in to complain about Ed Sheeran.
I mean, seriously - fuck that guy for his…muppet face and his… mildly catchy songs…
My idea of hell is being stuck in a room with Galway Girl on repeat forever.
Did anyone force you to consume that?
I’ve pretty much disconnected from pop media. No TV, no commercial radio, no social media, no streaming, almost only text webpages. I have seen this guy’s name, and maybe thumbnail images. I do not think I have EVER heard or seen him sing, play, speak, fart, anything, so I care not.
Not caring. That’s a good feeling. I wish there was more I needn’t care about.
I’m so happy that I can say, “Ed Sheeran who?” I gather from context he’s a singer or something.
Clearly you two have successfully defended your lawns from all incursions.
A couple of years back I had a night shift job. As you can imagine, it got pretty quiet in the small hours so to help pass the time we’d have the radio on. There was only one station we could get with any real clarity and, I swear, every fourth song was Ed Bloody Sheeran. Every half hour, regular as clockwork, we’d be visited by that simpering, antiseptic, boring little twerp.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did choose to be white. Guy’s worse than Hitler.
The autotune is the bad part. At least T Pain owned it (and is actually a very talented singer without it).