Not Bourbon, Not Scotch, but Irish Whiskey: Happy St Paddy's Best?

Look, my opinion is my own ( which means everyone else will hate it ). That said, I prefer neat. If you’re drinking Irish Whiskey, you are reaching around a lot of other bottles. In my opinion, you want to savor every drop. In a shot glass, you’d want to just dip your tongue in and milk that glass of gold for at least an hour.

Maybe I was impressed with this bottle of Paddy because I have it so rarely… but it was on sale for $20 and to me it tasted good. Not 'Beau Geste’ dying of thirst good, but it was good for me.

And no, I’m not a paid shill for the company. Not that I’d mind. ( Could you imagine the case you’d get as an Xmas bonus…? )

With a just a splash of water, which smooths it out nicely.

I don’t drink anymore, but I used to enjoy neat Kilbeggan.

The Clonakilty I often drink is higher proof, so I put a large ice cube in to mellow it out.

I remember that; back in the day it was very good. ( It was not up on the shelves of the liquor store. )

Please understand that tastes do change over time and I’m decades older.

Redbreast I sip neat. Green Spot I like on ice. And by the time I work my way down to Jameson, it’s chugging time :joy:

One karaoke bar I visited had Jameson on tap. That… was an interesting night. And a miserable next morning.

Would it be bad form to have ice water in a separate glass as some kind of chaser? After all some vintages are smooth and some are rough. Sometimes it depends on that season’s batch?

Don’t drink with snobs and it won’t be an issue :slight_smile:

Drink to enjoy, not to impress!

I should have noted that when I drink Scotch it’s neat, or with a tiny splash of water. I also usually drink my Scotch from a Glencairn glass. So it sounds like I could drink Irish pretty much the same way as Scotch.

Colbert isn’t even in the thread so…

The comedian guy? Did he do a skit about whiskey? (I don’t follow him, sorry)

He drinks every episode… but lets be fair: you haven’t been missing much.

While I would say Redbreast, I can’t claim to be a connoisseur. I was interested in this article published in our Canadian paper recently, about Irish whiskeys substituting for American bourbon. It says many Irish like Powers. Bushmills and Tullamore are dependable. I have never had Angel’s Envy or Teeling Small Batch.

I’ve tried to avoid Canadian Whiskey here… because while its very good, given our ‘leader’ and the hatred encouraged in Canada by him, the chance that I’ll ever be able to taste Canadian Whiskey again is between thin and none. :roll_eyes:

Couldn’t read the article (some anti-adblock thing, I think?) but if it talks about taste, I always thought Bushmill’s and Tullamore were a bit too bourbon-like. I don’t have the proper vocabulary to explain exactly how, but that’s the reason I never reach for them when I want an “Irish” whiskey.

Angel’s Envy, on the other hand… it’s one of my favorite “bourbons”, or so I thought. Is it actually Canadian? Or Irish?

I thought that was Kirsten Dunst…

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Here s a gift link, and excerpt. The article is about how Canadians have been buying 5-12% more Irish whiskey, because provincial liquor stores have stopped carrying American bourbon.

Excerpt:

Certainly it doesn’t hurt that Irish whiskey can play many roles, from fulsome blends, to fruity single pot stills, to long-aged single malts that easily rival the best that Scotland has to offer.

Right now, however, it’s pulling up aces with its session whiskeys: blends that combine Irish single malt and single pot, with best-in-class, silky grain whiskey. The finish yields flavourful, mellow sippers that can comfortably mimic a bourbon, and are easy to sip, easy to appreciate and, crucially, easy on the wallet.

Ireland consistently offers value for money, a welcome change for those accustomed to buying the spirit through lotteries, or paying premiums for allocated stock.

Irish whiskey also boasts a similar sweetness to bourbon – and the truth is, people like sweet.

With an influx of new brands such as Two Stacks and Foxes Bow entering the Canadian market, drinkers are spoiled for choice in their quest for a bourbon understudy. Meanwhile, the timing couldn’t have been better for Irish whiskey makers to see their American counterparts temporarily sidelined.

“With bourbon and other U.S. whiskeys off the shelves, people have been discovering the joys of Irish whiskey, thanks to an expanded presence in stores and on back bars,”

As cellar ambassador for Bacardi Canada and a former bartender, Lucas Twyman knows this landscape well. The ban has taken him from singing the praises of Angel’s Envy bourbon, to finding a place for Teeling Small Batch Irish whiskey in cocktails and bars, as both are part of Bacardi’s spirits portfolio. For the Kentucky native, the transition has been ironic, but it’s also given Twyman some insight into why bourbon and Irish whiskey are kith and kin.

“Nothing will replace bourbon, which is exclusively matured in barrels made of new charred oak,” says Twyman. “But instead of trying to find a replacement, drinkers should be seeking out alternatives where the oak and tannins come forward.”

Twyman explains that while the Canadian-made spirit is beautifully crafted, with many smaller producers offering a heavier, oakier product boasting an intensity similar to bourbon, it is usually distilled to a much higher proof than its American counterpart, resulting in a different flavour profile, particularly when matured in used barrels.

Author David Wondrich, editor-in-chief of The Oxford Companion to Spirits and Cocktails, notes that northern-style blended spirits share similar ingredients and aging methods with American whiskeys. “But Irish whiskey – the single malts and single-pot stills – is like the U.S.: distilled to much lower proofs than what’s common in Canada,” he says. “It gives Irish whiskey a similar intensity of flavour, especially when diluted with ice or soda.”

Or mixed in a cocktail. Twyman notes that budding mixologists will also be pleasantly surprised at how well the Irish can cover for bourbon in classic recipes.

He points out that being bottled at 46 per cent ABV with a secondary finish in ex-rum casks gives Teeling Small Batch heavier tannins and more spice to shine in a cocktail. “A whiskey sour with Teeling in place of bourbon will be my own go-to as the weather warms up.” Twyman is also partial to an Irish whiskey in a black Manhattan, with amaro replacing the vermouth.

Like many bartenders, Twyman is also a romantic, and can’t help but ponder the question of terroir when he thinks of Irish whiskey, and how much he feels at home in Ireland. “I grew up in Bluegrass Country, and Ireland is the only other place where I’ve seen Kentucky’s rolling green hills. It can’t be a coincidence that I appreciate their whiskey as much as I appreciate my bourbon.”

Long, long ago, when I was young and foolish (actually, I guess I was just a couple months short of 34), we had an overnight stop in Seattle. I went out with a handful of the sonar girls, and we of course stopped at a bar. Somebody suggested we have a contest, drink for drink. By the time we got to the 12th round it was down to one other guy and me; he was drinking Jack (or possibly Beam) and Coke, and I was drinking Irish and OJ – screwdrivers made with Irish instead of vodka. He only drank about half of his 12th drink. I drank mine, then finished his for him. And then came the best part – not a single bit of a hangover the next morning!

Nowadays I can’t even finish a glass of wine without feeling it…

Thank you! That’s pretty interesting. I’ll have to try Teeling sometime if I ever see it.

Also, I had no idea that Bacardi was Bermudan, or that it owned so many other liquors. Sigh, consolidation :frowning:

And te he. I chuckled.

Well, it is now. Bacardi was originally founded and based in Cuba; they relocated their HQ to Bermuda in the 1960s, after the Cuban Revolution, and Castro’s seizure of the company’s Cuban assets.