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Little testy are we? From my point of view, never trust the sources someone gives. They can filter out 99% of the sources related to other things and present just the best, disproportional information. It’s even worse on the internet, most of these goddamn news stories are 4th hand and you should see some of the anti palestian propaganda sites I found. Generally, if I want to know something, I’ll research it myself. How the hell do I know the other person isn’t using cites that aren’t full of crap.
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Anyone under the age of 18 taking part in military actions, is a child soldier. So a 17 year old throwing molitovs for the PLA could be considered a child soldier.
http://www.rb.se/childwardatabase/efaq.htm#one So if they are encouraging children over the age of 16, some must then be under the age of 18. So, by discouraging children under 16 are they encouraging children OVER the age of 16 to take part? Kinda hard to say isn’t it?
- It’s not an accusation, it’s a documented fact.
- You asked for cites about impropore use of children for military conflict. Oh no I included a wrong link. I obviously don’t know the difference.
Ok, so the last link doesn’t tell children to throw stones against tanks.
But it doesn’t say children shoulnd’t throw stones or petrol bombs at soldiers with guns, who in situations when they are outnumbered and are getting hit with stones, people are trying to set them on fire and sooner or later someone will start shooting. You’re going out of your way to put children in a situation where they are comming under GRAVE risk for their lives. They are attacking soldiers in often rapidly changing situations.
Anyway TwistofFate, calm way the fuck down.
There’s a reason why I don’t go into Great Debates. I don’t trust people when it comes to debating something they are passionate about, or something emotionally charged. People will distort facts and outright LIE to make their point and win converts. If you do more research into human right violations on both sides of the Isreal-Palestine conflict you’ll find more fucked up propaganda than you can point a stick at. Without GETTING OFF YOUR ASS and reading it all for yourself, and they trying to check the information contained in the first batch of sources how do you know you’re not quoting, or getting quoted utter BS from one side trying to influence your opinion?
It’s the dumbass parroting of things people hear that I take issue with. If people have an opinion it’s a goddamned certanty that they’ll have information to back it up. For christ’s sake. Look at the shitty quality of information I found.
Doesn’t that tell you something?! The best information was a second hand reading of a UN report, which probably was generated by an afteraction report.
The PA statement about discouraging children under 16 doesn’t directly say anything. It implies they willingly encourage children 16 and 17 to participate. But does that fall under the child soldier/child shield regulations? Without looking at EVER instances of children acting w/ the authorization of the PA you CAN’T MAKE THAT CALL! The whole situation is so FUCKED up over there, unless we’re going to go there and visit for a while it will be impossible to tell if there is any systamatic use of children either as combatents or as human shields.
About ALL that any of the information we gets about that conflict will tell us is that some children are getting killed. If there is an organized decision to use children as a buffer for armed adults when they confront the IDF we don’t know. The level of hate there is high enough that both children and adults will respond to the IDF. Is it a case of the palestinians unable to keep their children away from the conflict or are they sending them out?
It all comes down to how you interpret the facts.
Why ask for a cite when you can easilly tell there is no clear information on it.
Yes, sure there may be some instances of adults using children as a screening force. But how can you tell it’s policy for one of the groups in the area or if it’s a bunch of animals using children to take a bullet from them?
You’re asking for a cite on something both sides take all information that goes out and puts their own spin on it demonizing the other side.
I take issue with that.
Do you understand the difference?
