https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881543
Here’s where he defines the term. Also, he cites “tons of evidence” (actual quote) there. 
The OP reminds me of one of those Social Justice Warriors who can’t help but look at everything in life through the lens of their own particular obsession.
For him, the obsession is Social Justice Warriors, and it pretty clearly colors his “analysis” of whatever he happens to be talking about.
This thread is just an anti-SJW rant disguised as a criticism of Bill De Blasio. It’s a shame that he did it so badly, because De Blasio deserves plenty of criticism, but Damuri’s single-minded hammering managed to distract the thread from the real issues. Luckily, some other people managed to get it on track and actually discuss De Blasio’s policies and failings.
DeBlasio has the ability to create new magnet schools but decided he wants to change the admissions criteria of the top public school in NYC (with 75% asian enrollment) to reduce the asian population and improve the black and hispanic population. And his administration minimizes the efforts of poor asian immigrant kids and the sacrifices their families make in doing so.
This is why I think DeBlasio is an SJW woke racist.
I am particular sensitive to racism and I undersand that othrs are not but I think they should be.
It might have something to do with how I define SJWs. In my opinion SJWs are mostly middle class privileged white folks who have so much white guilt that they become stupid.
This thread was an anti-BdB rant. See the OP. I mentioned the racism and i wish I hadn’t because those two words “woke racist” seems to have hit a nerve and eclipsed everything else in the OP.
Yeah, who could have predicted that? :rolleyes:
Remember when this thread was allegedly about de Blasio and COVID-19?
Wait isn’t that the thread where you claimed to have “busted me” on my cite of Espenshade? Somehow you equated Espenshade saying that statistical evidence is not a smoking gun with an admissions that he doesn’t believe his statistical evidence.
Do you honestly think that there isn’t discrimination against asians in admissions at competitive colleges?
If we had this much evidence for discrimination against blacks, you would be marching in the streets.
Yes and it was a mistake. I wish I hadn’t done it. not because I don’t think it’s true but because people can’t seem to focus on anything else.
Lol, u knew what you were doing.
By all means, advertise the thread.
If you want to make an assertion about this, then it’s your job to back it up with evidence that stands against scrutiny. Nobody is going to make the argument for you.
This is what we call an appeal to hypocrisy. It’s not a formal fallacy, in that it’s a reasoning error rather than flawed deductive argument.
Are you saying I’m lying?
The arguments were made. They rely on statistical evidence because so far only one admissions dean has come out and admitted that this discrimination exists. If we had this much statistical evidence of discrimination against women, gays or any other minority, you would be marching in the streets.
What more proof do you want?
Doesn’t “appeal to hypocrisy”=“tu quoque”
tu quoque is a fairly common fallacy
This is not tu quoque.
I am saying that I have already met the standard that you would set for racism against any other group, I am not defending my actions by pointing at you and saying “well you do it too”
I’m saying you’re smart enough to craft your posts in a manner that reflects what you want to portray.
It’s a compliment really.
Not really. Not that I am saying you incurred in this either, but it has been seen in these boards more as a strategy to disarm the other side by accusing them of being hypocrites.
And may I say, from my own side, I have often myself questioned people and organizations who get hung up on being Wokey McWokeface 24/7 about Every Damn Thing.
But the particular phrase you used, yes, it was unfortunate; came across grating and distracting. Not the least because coming from another minority community there are those among us that are themselves just as guilty of that, and sometimes more annoyingly as they then will impugn our group membership if we don’t get with the program. (And FWIW, you used earlier *another *two word phrase, that also took me out of the flow for a moment, as in, “wait, he’s not saying it ironically”?)
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So based on the statistical evidence and Enright else you know, do you think there is discrimination against Asian college applicants at computing colleges?
You keep avoiding that question?
I am asking him to apply the same standards he would use to identify discrimination against other groups to identify discrimination against asians.
Which two words phrase?
I m more annoyed when white people impugn our group membership than when other minorities do it.
As I taught to the freshmen who didn’t pick this up in high school, a perfectly acceptable result of a study, if not a terribly sexy one, is, to quote our friend Espenshade, “we don’t have sufficient empirical evidence to support that claim.” This does not obligate making a different claim. It also does not mean that the original hypothesis isn’t correct.
Here is the full quote in cotext:
So yes, statistics frequently cannot prove things in much the same way that statistics cannot prove that smoking causes cancer.
So let me ask you for the third time. Do you think that competitive colleges discriminate against asians or not?
Would you require any more evidence than what we already have before you believed that discrimination existed against any other race?