NYYankees: Best lineup in history?

[Marley23]

@What Exit?

Some Sports writers are not known for their math ability. Is see you are a New Yorker, think about Maddog for a second from WFAN, he can barely add.

Journalists as a group aren’t known for their math ability. I can say from experience that in general, it’s for good cause. And don’t get me started on Chris Russo.

[What_Exit]

@Marley23

Journalists as a group aren’t known for their math ability. I can say from experience that in general, it’s for good cause. And don’t get me started on Chris Russo.

We would have to start a new thread on that one and we probably only have a few dozen posters that could comment. I know Hal listens to the fan also, no idea how many others.

Jim

[Yookeroo]

@What Exit?

Offense is more than scoring runs

What’s the reasoning here?

[RickJay]

@What Exit?

I think I provided details of the 27 Yanks vs League. Offense is more than scoring runs but it is the best measure. I find the team OBA to be great measurements also. The 27’ Yanks HR vs League avg has never been matched since. This is a form of offensive domination that will never be seen again.

Everything is runs.

It’s cool that the 1927 Yankees hit so many homers, but you don’t win ball games by hitting more homers, you win them by scoring more runs. The 1976 Reds scored more runs compared to their league; if that’s because they were better than the league in a more balanced fashion, so be it. They led the league in hits, doubles, triples, home runs, walks, batting average, slugging average, stolen bases and even stolen base percentage, most of those by wide, wide margins. They were just insanely dominant.

The 27 Yanks were definitely a top to bottom threat, you’ll notice they were all on base at an abnormal rate. Please look at Benches offensive number for 1976. You might have forgotten he had an off year but a great World Series.

Mark Koenig’s OBP was .320; Joe Dugan’s was .321. Pretty normal.

Cincinnati’s team OBP was .357 against a league .320; New York’s was .381 against .348. So even by that measure Cincy was better relative to the competition.

I’d agree there was something revolutionary about the way the Yankees scored runs, and of course they get a bonus point for having the greatest ballplayer ever, but that doesn’t make them a better offense (although they were a better team, as their pitching was much better than the '76 Reds.)

Of course, you surely agree these teams leave the 2005, and therefore likely the 2006, Yankees in the dust.

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@RickJay

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Of course, you surely agree these teams leave the 2005, and therefore likely the 2006, Yankees in the dust.

Yes, barring a total unexpected career years by 8 out of 9.

Jim

[Captain_Wawa]

The '27 Yanks and '76 Reds were fantastic teams, but I really think the '06 Yanks are even better (and I’m an O’s fan)!

Here’s a possible opening day Yankees lineup and reasonable projections for the 2006 season:

*CF Johnny Damon (.300, 125 runs, 15 HRs, 75 RBIs).

SS Derek Jeter (.310, 20 HRs, 80 RBIs).

3B Alex Rodriguez (.320, 45 HRs, 130 RBIs).

LF Hideki Matsui (.300, 25 HRs, 115 RBs).

RF Gary Sheffield (.285, 30 HRs, 110 RBIs).

1B Jason Giambi (.270, 35 HRs, 95 RBIs).

C Jorge Posada (.250, 15 HRs, 70 RBIs).

2B Robinson Cano (.300, 20 HRs, 75 RBIs).

DH Bernie Williams (.250, 15 HRs, 70 RBIs).*

Starting Pitchers candidates: Randy Johnson, Shawn Chacon, Chien-ming Wang, Mike Mussina, Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright and Aaron Small.

Closer: Mariano Rivera

Defense: So-So

That’s sick! Scary, scary team!

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@Captain Wawa

The '27 Yanks and '76 Reds were fantastic teams, but I really think the '06 Yanks are even better (and I’m an O’s fan)!

Here’s a possible opening day Yankees lineup and reasonable projections for the 2006 season:
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That’s sick! Scary, scary team!

I very much hope you are right.

Jim (I hung my 2006 Yankee Calendar up at the office today)