Surely you’re aware of the Freeper practice of referring to Obama’s “Chicago-style politics”.
And, name calling is all he’s got.
Hey, I don’t set DNC policy on how we identify our members. Funny though, no one else has even claimed DNC membership. Makes me wonder how seriously I can take posts in The Straight Dope.
I realize you are paranoid. I have no idea what ‘Freep.’ This troll talk is too trite for words. Is this one of those message boards for people who have been banned everywhere else? Conspiracy I can deal with, but paranoia is an unproductive activity. I won’t put up with it.
I have not heard of what you are talking about. Chicago style politics are real. They call things as they are. They solve real problems, now. Sure there is a striving for utopia in the future, but in Chicago they take care of today’s problems today.
If you let right and left wing-nuts run things nothing would get done. The current debt ceiling issue in Washington is testament to this.
Frankly, I place little value on people who chase political wind mills. The word ‘progressive’ says it all. And, that is Chicago making progress and overcoming obstructions.
From Meriam Webster’s Dictionary;
Definition of PROGRESSIVE
1
a : of, relating to, or characterized by progress b : making use of or interested in new ideas, findings, or opportunities c : of, relating to, or constituting an educational theory marked by emphasis on the individual child, informality of classroom procedure, and encouragement of self-expression
2
: of, relating to, or characterized by progression
3
: moving forward or onward : advancing
4
a : increasing in extent or severity <a progressive disease> b : increasing in rate as the base increases <a progressive tax>
5
often capitalized : of or relating to political Progressives
6
: of, relating to, or constituting a verb form that expresses action or state in progress at the time of speaking or a time spoken of
7
: of, relating to, or being a multifocal lens with a gradual transition between focal lengths <progressive bifocals>
8
: or, relating to, or using a method of video scanning (as for television or a computer monitor) in which the horizontal lines of each frame are drawn successively from top to bottom — compare interlaced
— pro·gres·sive·ly adverb
— pro·gres·sive·ness noun
You were talking about Chicago in the 1960s. When the Daley Machine ran things. No good model for nuttin’.
Again, while I am not from Illinois, I consider myself part of the Chicago approach to politics. You want corruption? Name any city, state, or nation. In my opinion ALL humans have some form of corruption.
New Mexico would have to be the most corrupt state I am familiar with. They keep throwing state office holders into jail, and no one bats an eye. Their television news is a plethoria of criminal activity. No wonder they are nearly in last place in everything from education to Medicaid.
:rolleyes: There are degrees, and the differences do matter a lot.
See? A corrupt government is not a good model for getting things done.
Admit it Cyclone:
The 2012 bumper sticker for Obama on your jeep is one that says:
Obama = Hitler
Lord God, how I hate it when somebody posts a dictionary definition of a commonly understood word as if it proves something. Makes me want to drop kick a puppy.
Every field of human endeavor has its specialized vocabulary, and in politics “progressive” – as used in American political discourse now – means something more specific than that. It means something well to the right if “socialist” and well to the left of “liberal” – in European terms, roughly equivalent to “social-democratic”. See here for discussion.
Brain damage?
Senator Bernie Sanders suggests a primary challenge from Obama’s left. (But he is emphatically not offering to run, some “progressive Democrat” would have to do it. Sanders is an independent – not even a Socialist Party member or Vermont Progressive Party member, just a self-ID’d “socialist” with no party affiliation.)
You do a very poor job of acting ignorant. I’d have said stupid, but you do a very good job at that, troll.
Yes and no. “Progressive” in the modern vernacular is what liberals started calling themselves a couple years ago after the GOP made liberal a dirty word. I look forward to the next archaic party name they dig up after the GOP makes progs the next curse word. Hey, no one has used Greenback or Whig in awhile.
Fuck him. Fuck him up the ass with a hot poker. Bernie Sanders just proved that he doesn’t give a good goddamn fuck about the future of this nation.
Our next president will likely have to fill TWO seats on the Supreme Court.
We already got Bush v Gore. We now have Corporations are People. If a Republican gets the presidency and fills those 2 seats, anyone who’s alive right now will NEVER know the same America we know today. Never. Supreme Court appointments are for life. Life. Bad decisions can take centuries to overturn.
If we fuck with President Obama during the primaries? We’re all fucked. Truly, deeply fucked.
Don’t worry. No one will primary Obama save as a gesture. It’s far too late for fundraising. And if he got the Clinton vote in November 2008 after a primary fight that bitter, he can get the Kucinich or whoever vote in November 2012.
Any Democrat who tries to primary Obama should face the end of their career in national politics. You wanna play games at a time like this? Fuck you, you’ve proven you’re not qualified to work with adults. Back to the kid’s table for you. You’re done.
Tell that to Bernie Fucking Sanders. Now I’m pissed I donated to his re-election campaign. Fucking traitor.
The Republican party has a faction of outrageously stupid winguts on the far right, but at least they know better than to destroy their party from the inside out. We dumbass Democrats let our wingnuts eat our own. It’s the dumbest fucking thing on the planet and will be the undoing of this country once and for all. We’ll crumble like Ancient Rome. It’s goddamn depressing.
No, they used to. The Tea Party changed all that.
RWs are wingnuts. LWs are moonbats.
Traitor to what? Sanders is not a Democrat, never has been, and never has pretended to be.