Obama hanged in effigy on campus of Univ. of Kentucky

If someone had stood by the effigy and protested or put up Republican ads or petitions or whatnot, I’d be more inclined to believe this falls under the “Free speech” category.
The fact that someone just hung it up on a tree without follow up or taking responsibility for it or bringing attention to some political cause?
That puts it into the Racial Unrest Category for me.

At least the Palin Effigy was put by a dude’s house and in his property. We understand who did it, and why they did it. This was not the same thing in my opinion.
That’s my 2 cents on the matter.

Anonymous speech is just as protected. To separate this out from the banner of free speech you have to find something else.

Oh, Gillispie will figure something out.

Yuck. Horrifying. Though I have to agree that it’s difficult to find more of a problem with this than I did with the WeHo Palin hanging.

That said:

I am so happy to have learned the word “choadery”.

Never mind I didn’t read the headline.

It may be free speech, but it doesn’t mean I have to like it or choose to interpret it as such.

If they wished to convey their anonymous message better, well then they should have done so.
If not, I’ll interpret the message as best as I can see fit with the information I’m given.

My bad, RoOosh, I interpreted:

as meaning that you felt the anonymity of this action it did not fall under the category of “free speech.” Clearly an unreasonable interpretation.

No problem, buddy.

Hate speech isn’t covered under free speech. Freedoms are not absolute.

Is that true? Am I constitutionally protected from someone using hate speech against me? Or did I misunderstand?

All the parties involved in both of the “hangings” should be ashamed of themselves. Hating a person to the degree that you wish them dead because they are a Republican/Democrat makes no more sense to me than hating a person because he is black.

I’ll be glad when this election is over.

Some (very poor IMHO) decisions in the US have permitted restrictions on speech by federal and state governments and their agents on the basis of prohibiting ‘hate speech.’

There has never been a clear rationale provide as to why this kind of speech falls outside the protections of pure political speech, as the expression of an idea etc.

Personally I consider the hanging of Palin and Obama effigies the work of immature assholes. I think to call either a hate crime is really really stretching the definition of the term (though I’ve never been a fan of hate crime legislation anyway).

So only those entities, then? Just regular folks can call me what they want without risking federal prosecution?

Sorry - poor writing. I meant restrictions by federal and state governments/agents.

Well, that’s really stupid, then.

Hence state universities can have hate speech codes.

My black neighbor called me a dumbass honky and threatened to beat me up. Could I sic the feds on him?

No. You could set the state police on him for assault, but I doubt it would go far.

Also, arguably, it could be classified as a hate crime, but I find it unlikely that would happen either. I just don’t see what federal prohibition it would come under.

So that wouldn’t be hate speech, then?

In point of fact I did complain to the police. The officer offered to take him in (he was on parole) but felt that if she talked to him and read him the riot act more would be accomplished. I let her judgment be my guide.