Obama's 50 Lies and Counting

My brother just sent me this e-mail. I responded initially only debunking the logic errors. Then I went looking for factual info.

A google search on it shows several religious and white-supremacist sites and message-boards repeating it. Snopes currently says “Research in progress”.

I didn’t see a thread discussing it, so I’m starting one. (Mods, if I missed a current thread about this, feel free to merge or close this thread.)

Here it is [I’m not putting it in quote tags because I think that that would make it harder to quote].

1.)" Selma Got Me Born " - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 -
Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth,
who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most
corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga
has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in
Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in Decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily " Salat "
prayers at 5 a.m. according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity
wouldn’t allow her to have been ‘one’ of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African; Swahili - LIAR, your Name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ ( from
which Barack came ) means ‘blessed’ in that language . Hussein is also Arabic, and so is
OBAMA .
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you
were Registered as a MUSLIM and kept that Faith for 31 years, until your wife made you
change, so You could run for Office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were Registered as MUSLIM
there, and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for ‘making faces’ ( check your own book ).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not One teacher says, You could speak that
Language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, You
were There from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language.
What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch Cartoons ?
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa ( surprise ) and
the Middle East ( bigger surprise ), you have never been Anywhere else on the planet and have NO Experience with Our closest Allies .
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content
in High School to be “Barry” Obama, no mention of KENYA and no mention of ’ struggle to
Identify ’ - your classmates said You were just fine.
13.) An EBONY Magazine Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the
Article you mention in your Book . It doesn’t, and Never did , exist .
14.) A LIFE Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to
find the Article you mention in your Book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite
saying, “live” on TV, that You would Not have enough Experience by then, and You are all
about, having: ‘Experience First’ .
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but
not many others have 130 " NO VOTES " .
17.) Oops, I Mis-voted - LIAR, only when caught by Church groups and democrats,
did you beg to change your mis-vote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a " senior lecturer ", ON LEAVE .
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a “senior lecturer” ON LEAVE !
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, You didn’t Write it,
Introduce it, Change it, nor Create it!
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from Start to
Finish .
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your Bill was Rejected by Your own
Party for its pandering and LACK of all Regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear
Donor, EXELON from which, DAVID AXELROD came .
23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March 2008, State Bills You
sponsored or voted for, have Yet to be released, exposing all the " special-interests pork "
hidden, within .
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens mess - LIAR, you were Part of a large
group of people who ‘remedied’ Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention Anyone else but
Yourself in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were
just combined into a Proposal which Lost 99 - 0 , and even YOU voted AGAINST Your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own Supporters claim
to have “not seen” BOLD action, on Your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were Not YOUR Bills,
but rather handed ’ to ’ You after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist You in a
Future bid for higher Office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About N.A.F.T.A. - LIAR, the Canadian Government issued
the names and " a Memo of " the CONVERSATION, Your Campaign had with Them .
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution Vote on
Terrorism and your good friend ALI ABUNIMAH supports the Destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President, Yet - LIAR, after the N.A.F.T.A. Memo, a dead
terrorist in the F.A.R.C. in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how You and he, were
working Together on getting F.A.R.C. recognized Officially.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed National ads to run 8-12
times per Day, for TWO weeks - and you still : Lost .
32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, No You Didn’t.
33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, NO You did NOT.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said: " let the Delegates decide ".
35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer Caucuses that Limit the Vote,
Confuse the voters, Force a Public vote, and only operate during Small ‘windows’ of time .
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26 ; most of which
you didn’t write Yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to
sue if you Do Not stop Saying this. ( Obama ‘has’ stopped saying this. )
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used “Tactics” to eliminate
Alice PALMER from running against you.
39.) I Don’t Take P.A.C. Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don’t ‘have’ Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 Lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Advertisement - LIAR, your own campaign
worker made the ad’ on his Apple in one afternoon !
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom who started MySpace issued
a Warning about this advertising, to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with OTHER
people’s Words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U. S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed “A BILL”, in the U. S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren’t ‘in Office’ to vote against it, unlike Kucinich who seems to be out gutting You, Obama ; AND, you have voted to Fund it Every single time . You also seem to be ‘stepping back’, from your Departure date - AGAIN .
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your ‘plan’ leaves us All to Pay the narrow 15,000,000 who ‘don’t have to’ Buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both Companies, You cite as having sent you letters about this Conflict, have " No Record " of Any such letter ever being created, or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won’t wear a Flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the National Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of WRIGHT and FARRAHKAN, in relation to their Contempt and hatred of America .
50.) WAL-MART Is a Company I Wouldn’t Support - LIAR, your WIFE has received nearly a Quarter of a Million dollars through " TREEHOUSE ", which is connected to Wal-Mart.

Christ, what is it with Wingnuts and Their random Capitalization? screams Psychosis to Me.

I Might take the Time to Read them All if It Didn’t have that Annoying ISSUE.

OK, that seriously had me laughing out loud. Really, that’s the best they can come up with? They don’t come off as terribly well educated or rational, do they?

I don’t get why #48 is a big deal, unless wearing flag pins is something all or nearly-all Americans do.

Regarding No. 5. - Many African blacks who consider themselves Christian still practice polygamy - look at Jacob Zuma, our ex-VP. Or the king of Swaziland. It was practiced here before they even heard of monotheism, let alone Islam. Polygamy’s perfectly legal here in South Africa.

Also note that (in Cameroon at least) a Christian polygamist is more likely to have a huge number of wives (14!) than a Muslim one. Muslims for the most part stick with the four wife limit.

The Republican Party is morphing into the Libertarian Party — right before our eyes.

Why is this in Great Debates?

I guess we could debate whether Barbara’s dragging her heels on purpose.

Gosh! He has almost caught up on Dubya, guess he will make a good president :).

Monavis

Barack’s favorite color is green!

LIAR IT’S RED!

Barack’s favorite tree is a maple!

LIAR Muslims like Oak!

Barack was well liked in his home state!

LIAR the Illinois KKK said they don’t like Obama!

Barack Likes Pickles!

LIAR - Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers! :mad:
A forwarded email is not a great debate. Sorry.

FWIW, the first ones true. In this speech

But the Selma civil rights marches indeed post-dated Obama’s birth by several years.

I suppose there must be left-wing lying viralspam e-mails floating around in the Internets here and there, but it was the RWs who invented and perfected the method.

Once someone clearly demonstrates their abandonment of logic, reason, and honesty in order to pursue their agenda I have little interest in trying to argue the point.

The question is not whether the accusations in that e-mail have any merit, but whether they will turn into memes that sway a significant number of fence-sitting voters against Obama.

Could you elaborate?

These are the same people who told us McCain has a black baby, right?

Gotta love those Republicans. :rolleyes:

Attacks instead of solid solutions, hoping people will flock to them as the default party?

Well, earlier I think he refers to the Montgomery bus boycott, which if I recall was in 1955-56, and the African airlift that started in 1960 and brought his father to the U.S., and then to the Selma-Montgomery march in 1965. It sounds more like establishing a theme than laying out a specific chronology – at least, I’m pretty sure he assumed his audience already knew the history involved, and that he was talking about a continuum of efforts for social justice. Anyway, it’s a pretty lame criticism. (Excellent speech otherwise, by the way.)

Well, I saw some that were unknowable (ie. regarding what he or his wife felt or believed), some that could simply be dismissed on logical errors (eg. not wearing a lapel pin makes you unpatriotic), some that had a factual answer, and some that are debatable.

Perhaps if I strip away the first two types, people won’t be so inclined to throw out the baby with the bathwater?