Examples.
Your father would have wanted you to have this lightsabre…I mean if he wasn’t burning to death and had any idea you would survive…yeah then I think he might have theoretically wanted you to have it
When I first met him, Anakin was already a great pilot, well might have been, he was like 10 and had never been on a space ship
Eh, that really depends on whether pod racers are piloted or driven.
So…from a certain point of view
Let’s just say it plainly; Jedi lie out their ass all of the time. It is actually one of their chief weapons. They’ve actually developed a technique using the Force to gaslight people in real time.
Scammy liars, every one of them. Most were recruited from the sales force of used sandspeeder lots on Tatooine.
Stranger
" I’ve been waiting for you Obi-Wan. We meet again at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the Master."
True from a certain point of view?
“When I left you”, not “when I saw you last”. One could say that Anakin left Obi-Wan about half-way through Episode III, when he joined with Palpatine.
From a certain point of view.
‘learner’?
George Lucas was not the best words-that-people-speak writer in Hollywood. Fortunately, he was pretty good with blowy-up-effects and resetting scenes from old-timey war movies in space.
Stranger
“When I first met him, Anakin was already a great go-karter.”
I sense something, a presence I have not felt since…a fortnight.
Now that Obi-Wan knows what a threat to the Galaxy Vader is, he should grab Luke and Leia and take the to Yoda to train. I don’t feel they can give a satisfying reason why he didn’t in the final episode. The Jedi just rolled over and let the Sith take over.
There is no try. Do or do not. I guess they chose not.
In the original movie, Kenobi tells Luke he was holding onto the lightsaber until Luke was old enough. Of course, in the prequels it is indicated that prospective Jedi should be trained from a very young age, perhaps as young as a toddler. Anakin, at age 9, is regarded as “too old” to beginning training by Master Yoda. So…basically there is no consistency about who can become a Jedi or at what age. I’m starting to think that Rian Johnson had it right; anybody can be a Jedi; they just have to really, really want it, and also do a lot of midichlorian.
Stranger
By A New Hope the old Jedi training system is gone and Obi-Wan knows it. I suspect “old enough” meant “old enough you can legally do what you want and Owen Lars can’t stop you as you’re legally an adult” since clearly Luke’s uncle wasn’t keen on Luke following in his dad’s footsteps.
Yeah, I think it’s this. Uncle Owen basically told him to fuck off with that Jedi bullshit, Luke was not going to get trained as a kid. Old enough to decide for himself makes the most sense.
Considering how little training Luke actually gets and the Clone Wars saw Padawans at the front lines, I wonder how much is really necessary.
Funny enough…I’ve decided the majority of Ford’s “You can write this shit George, but you can’t say it…” is from deleted content or prior scripts.
Cause while Ford (and Carrie, despite people who bag on her) do a marvelous job with the dialogue they have…I don’t think its quite in “Unspeakable range” while some of the deleted stuff and old scripts definitely are.
Of the original trilogy, Lucas was only primarily responsible for writing on the first movie (and it is clear he got a lot of uncredited help with the story based upon early drafts). He gets a “Screenplay By” credit on Return of the Jedi but that dialogue—including the cringy parts—is pure Kasdan. On the other hand, Lucas wrote The Phantom Menace and was materially responsible for the writing of Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith which gives you a good measure of Lucas’ skill with dialogue. People blame Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen for bad line deliveries but frankly when Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman come off as flat and uninteresting I think you have to look beyond the acting for the problems.
Stranger
I was just reminded the “Kato Thing” is actually a part of The Force Unleashed
This statement from Vader in “A New Hope” makes no sense now, since they met and dueled after “Revenge of the Sith” and before “A New Hope.” Darth was no longer the pupil (learner), but the master when he combated Obi Wan in the new Disney series. That statement would have been more appropriate then and not in “A New Hope.”
Also, Reva’s big revenge plan was to try to capture or kill her biggest, most powerful ally to get close enough to Vader to take an easily repelled lightsaber swipe at him? She could have done that pretty much at any time. She met with him several times. What the fuck ever Disney.
“When I left you” COULD refer to when Anakin was still the Padwan of ObiWan, which he no longer is in this story. So what he said in A New Hope was true, from a certain point of view.