obscure library software rant

In close to two years of posting, I think this is the first Pit thread I’ve started.

And sho’nuff, it’s going to be lame and entirely inapplicable to nearly everyone. Not to mention ridiculously long. So just let me rant, then let the thread slid into oblivion, m’kay? Thanks.

In the following disjointed venting, I will be playing the role of Charlie Brown. Cast as Lucy van Pelt with football, epixtech.

First off, what’s with the fucking name, guys? Italicized, no caps. epixtech. Yeah, really rolls off the tongue, don’t it? Sure, I know you wanted something with an available domain name. No problem. But epixtech? Did you assnuggets deliberately choose something that says nothing about what your comapany does, is annoying to pronounce, and completely fucks up every sentence it starts with?

Right. That was the best place to start. See, no one reading this has any clue yet just what epixtech is or does, right?

epixtech is a software company. And I use both “software” and “company” advisedly. They make library automation software–catalogs, circulation functions, acquisitions, etc. Specifically to my job, they make a little gem of a tool called Horizon. Horizon Integrated Library Software.

And they are the spawn of a drunken tryst between Baal and Dame Edna, carried only partially to term by a syphilitic Marge Schott on thalidomide.

Perhaps the problems started when Dynix Inc., a sound and competent company, sold out to Ameritech. Ameritech, for Kdapt’s sake! Sure, Ameritech knows phones. But since the newly-formed-upon-acquisition-of-Dynix Ameritech Library Services comprised some 0.1% of Ameritech’s total operating resources, I cannot think they had the slightest clue of how to build a library software package. Or how to sell it. Or, in fact thing one about libraries.

NO usability testing, NO quality control, NO user feedback. In short, little old Dynix became another stereotypically soulless machine, churning out piss-poor product, promising the moon and delivering a big puckered abscess of uselessness.

When Ameritech Library Services was bought out by a small investment consortium, the party line changed. “We have freedom from the corporate shackles!” they said. “We can design the product you need now, without a slavish obedience to the bottom line!” they said. “We’re hiring new, vibrant developers, who will perform proper usability testing and real beta-testing!” they said.

I bought that spew, hook, line, and SQL. So did most of the rest of us at the Horizon User Group annual meeting. Even the hideous abomination of a name didn’t dampen our spirits.

Enter Charlie Brown, stage left, running for football.

Horizon version 5.1 came with release notes. Included in those release notes were four (4) pages of fixed bugs from the previous version.

“WOOHOO! They actually managed to fix some bugs! They really meant everything they said! I’m not upgrading yet, but I can’t wait for version 5.2!!”

Still running, he crosses right toward football, held by Lucy

Version 5.2 came out. With five fucking pages of fixed bugs from version 5.1. FIVE. Cinco, cinque, cinq. Five. One more than four.

“Oh dear. Well, I’m sure it was just a wad of legacy problems from before. They’ve got it all set now. I’ll just wait for 5.3.”

Lucy removes football. Charlie Brown describes a gentle cardioid in the air, propelled by the strength of his kick.

Word to the wise, folks: If you run a software company, especially one that charges grossly inflated prices to buyers in a niche market, you need to have software to sell.

Version 5.3 came out, and I was already committed to its purchase and installation. It arrived with . . .

. . . yes, you guessed it. SIX pages of fixed bugs from the previous version.

Resounding thud as Charlie Brown’s ass indents the stage. Exit Charlie Brown, USL
I think I’ll pause to single out one shining example of the Peter Principle at work.

Vice President of Product Development Rick Ferren: you, sir, are a choad. I cannot think of any better single term to describe your smarming, lying, “it’ll be fixed in the next release,” anything-for-a-buck monkeyshit.

See, the library in which I work wanted to use the great new web-based cataloging system offered by expixpixtchech. But I knew it had some problems. So I called Mr. Vice-President Rick Ferren, back in February 2000.

“Hey, Rickc,” I say, innocently, “We want to install WebCAT. But y’all have a Java version coming out. Should I get that one or the existing HTML version?”

“Hey, Andros, there’s a better idea,” Mr. Pile of Dung in Starched Shirt tells me. “We have a Brand New Product coming out, named . . .”

(bum-bum-bummmmmm)

"iPAC. It’ll be out by April. It’ll be great, really–fast, no connection errors. . . " Captain Fucknuts proceeds to extoll the virtues of the Brand New iPAC. He gets a developer on the line to tell me all about what the product is, what it’ll do.

Enter Charlie Brown, stage left, still dusty, but undeterred. Lucy sweetly smiles and sets the football in place.

April, huh? Well, it’s already February. I can wait until April to get a web-based catalog online.

Charlie Brown runs for the football

April comes and goes. “It’s in Beta testing–we want to make sure you get the best product. We expect release in late May or early June.”

Thud

May. June. Into July. “Oh, it’s almost ready. We’ve rolled it out to early adopters for final testing.”

Run

August. September. “Soon, really. We’re fixing some final bugs.”

Thud

October. “November 1, guaranteed.”

Run

November 1 . . . And dear god, it’s out. It’s out! It’s released! The Web-based iPAC Brand New Product for my lil’ ol’ library is out!! I can install it!

Head bowed, nostrils flaring, foot inches from ball, knowing that this time, THIS TIME, he’s finally going to kick the football!

" . . . oh, that’s a known bug with some installations on NT. Yeah, it kills all server processes. No, there’s no workaround. We’ll have it fixed in the next release."

THUD
Four goddamn releases of the bug-ridden piece of electronic smegma you have the gall to call “software” later, I manage to get the fucking thing working. Consistently. I only had to rewrite six, count 'em SIX of YOUR fucking perl files, you sons of motherless goats, and I COULD HAVE HAD A WORKING WEB CATALOG OVER A YEAR AGO IF i HADN’T LISTENED TO RICK “VICE PRESIDENT OF BUNNY MOLESTATION” FERREN, YOU FUCKING USELESS CHOAD.

And I’m goddamn good and fed-fucking-up with talking to Jeff K in your excuse for a support department. I’m sure he extremely 3133t. But he’s the bastard child of an idiot and a fool, with some asshole on his mother’s side.
Thanks for listening.
exuent omnes

Dude, that wasn’t a rant, that was art.

My favorite was probably

I’ll be steal-- uh, borrowing that one at some point.

I may also need “VICE PRESIDENT OF BUNNY MOLESTATION.” Where should I send the royalty check?

If hadn’t named the software, I would have sworn you were writing about my previous company. They produced the worst, bug ridden software (complete with pages and pages of bug fixes). I finally stopped lying to people and would just say “No, I doubt that will ever be fixed, but the official word is that 4.3 will be flawless”.

Companies that operate this way are theives. They promise you a product and do not deliever, but they deliver juuuust enough that you can’t claim that. Scammers.

Zette

The only major flaw I see:

“Perhaps the problems started when Dynix Inc., a sound and competent company…”

Dynix has never been anything more than barely tolerable (though I suppose the company itself may have been sound and competent). Not as bad as CARL but barely a step up from card catalogs maintained by poorly trained rhesus monkeys.

I use Horizon every day and it’s outstanding.

Maybe the problem is the component that occupies the space between the chair and the computer. I would call a technician to come by and take a look at it. It’s possible that a replacement is in order… one with current drivers and all.

manny, thanks. 'Sall public domain.

Zette, it gets even better when you’re tens of thousand of dollars into a product, and migration to a competing product is a task comparable to building a pyramid. :rolleyes:

obfusciatrist:

Fair enough. I’ve never used Dynix, actually, and didn’t deal with Dynix Inc. I do know that a huge number of Dynix users are generally displeased with the loss of functionality they’re finding in migration to Horizon. I got drunk last year with the (now) past President of CODI (the Dynix user group), and she was rather . . . opinionated on the matter. But it might just have been the sake.

dietrologia:

Sure, as long as the modules work, they work great.

Provided you aren’t running Windows98. Or Win2k. And not trying to integrate Serials and Acquisitions. And not navigating the wholly counterintuitive Admin module. Or gathering statistics. Or running WebPAC or iPac. Or running a zserver in either of the above.

Since you speak from such authority, dietrologia, I assume you’re a Horizon administrator?

Hmmmm, maybe I don’t want to throw out the card catalog in the ol’ church library just yet…

But when Mr A took a stack of cards, saying that he usually types up several cards for each book so they can be cross-referenced, this old IS major and worshiper of Codd’s codpiece threw up!

Andros,

I was just busting your chops. We had Horizon kind of “tweaked” for us (law firm). Sent a lot of people out to Utah to work with them getting it configured for our needs.

We have it running on Windoze NT and it actually works really well for our purposes. The PAC is nicely integrated on everyone’s desktops. So far, no complaints here w/the Serials/Aquisitions/Circulation/Cataloging module interaction.

We switched over from Sydney, so anything will look glorious compared to that!

Sorry, dietrologia, I’ve been in a mood this week.

I know that Horizon is about the best product out there. That’s the most frustrating thing for me, I think. Thanks for the word on Sydney, BTW. They call me every few months to see if I’m interested in switching products, but all I really know about 'em is what their propaganda tells me.

On another note, having blown off some steam, I’d like to offer

A Retraction and Apology, with Belated Disclaimer

I humbly apologize for the inappropriate and underhanded accusations and insults I leveled in my OP against the person of Rick Ferren. I should not allow myself to stoop to personal attacks, however I may feel they are warranted, and especially not in such a cowardly fashion. Not that you’ll ever see this, Rick, but I am truly sorry for insulting you.

Further, the views expressed in the OP about Horizon, iPac, and epixtech are purely my own and in no way reflect the views of my employers, or of the parent companies of which my library is a part.

Andros,

No apologies necessary. This is The Pit after all.

Before you go running to sign off on Horizon, I should warn you that other law firms in our area were so dissatisfied with Horizon that they dropped it for other products. Unfortunately, I don’t know what those systems are.

As I mentioned, Horizon works well for us, but we have highly specialized needs, a specialized collection, and a specialized network that Horizon operates within.

It’s a lot of work to get it up and running properly, but once that’s done it’s a breeze.

Your mileage may vary.

Aw, damnit. I was basking in the glow of one of my favorite rants of all time, only to see parts of it retracted by the OPer.

You broke my heart, Fredo, you broke my heart.

I’m just a simple systems administrator who is blessed with many friends.

Sorry. I pussed.

That was beautiful, Andros. Really. I realize now I’ve encountered whole bags of people who work in the Department of Bunny Molestation, and I just didn’t know it. In fact, I think I know some of Mr. Ferren’s supervisors.

As far as library software goes - I empathize, I truly do, and so does everyone in this household. (Even our dogs understand the misery of pathetic excuses for library-specific software.) I read this out loud to the LO, by the way, and she practically wept. Her system has been waiting over a year for their web catalog to get working; it’s only just gotten up and running. They’re still trying to get all the features going. And we won’t even speak of the acquisitions module; it’s too painful to go into here.

Let me say it again: gorgeous rant. I’m even going to save it to my hard drive, that’s how much I love it.

Fantastic rant, andros…and after lurking on the SDMB for months, I’ve found it’s a topic near and dear enough to my heart to finally sign on and respond to something for once!

I’m the local systems rep. for our library consortium, which is still running good-old Dynix for all of the reasons you’ve mentioned, and more. There’s been some discussion about migrating to Horizon or to another brand LIS entirely, but I simply don’t think there’s anything on the market that will do what we’ve finally gotten Dynix to do in the eleven or so years since the consortium first signed on with them.

And if anyone out there has found a system they are truly happy with, I would honestly love hearing about it!

There is one thing about the OP I wanted to comment on, though. For a little while I was a Quality Control Librarian for a competing software company (Ok…this is the Pit, so I can mention the name of a company that sucks more than most. It was VTLS.). The QC staff worked closely with the Customer Service folks, trying to solve problems and reporting bugs that were pointed out to us by customers. It’s only because I’ve been on their end, that I can say I think you need to cut your friend at epixtech a little slack. He gets as frustrated as you do when he can’t make the software work, and it’s not his fault that it’s broken to begin with.

Blame the software programmers. Blame the smarmy marketing guys. And by all means blame that idiot Vice President of Bunny Molestation! (Brilliant title change, by the way…I’ll have to remember it!) If those folks were all doing their jobs right, the rest of us (and the Customer Service reps) would all be living in a happier library world!

Just my two cents…and I’ll be sure to pass the URL to this thread to our consortium Sys Admin. She’ll truly appreciate this! :smiley:

Fanger

Well, Voyager doesn’t look half bad now! Even though they basically used (actually, make that ‘use’) us to beta test their product, at least we <often> get the bare minimum we need to operate.

Seriously though, if you work at a large university library you might want to take a look at it. UGA has already found most of the major bugs for you–and for free even! :wink: