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What the hell are my fellow Americans so proud of? We clobbered an enemy half the size of the one we clobbered 12 years ago. I think I’ll go bazooka that kid in the wheelchair and throw myself a party.
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Man, those Weapons of Mass destruction turned out to be all hype! Same goes for that much touted link to al Queda. Its no wonder Bush had to make stuff up and plagiarize some grad student’s paper while he was failing to convince the rest of the world to back him in this farce. (note: Brits and a handful of Aussies and Spaniards do not constitute the rest of the world)
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The real winners of this war: American corps with billion dollar post-war contracts and gas guzzling SUV’s. Climate change my ass, a highly regarded petroleum funded research institute just said it was hotter in the Middle Ages… fire up the H2 and lock the gear diffs on low baby, we’re going suburban onroading!
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Operation Iraqi Freedom? Biggest misnomer since Pussy Galore. I think we failed to mention we were freeing them from a tyrant we helped put in power in the first place. It’s like me locking your ass up in prison and then asking for a thank you when I set you free. Those poor bastards would be celebrating if Pol Pot and that team the Harlem Globetrotters always beat had toppled Saddam.
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So now that Saddam is no longer a threat, what’s next on the agenda? Tehran? Kim Jong Ill? Oh wait… whatever happened to that Osama fellow?
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It pains me to say it but September 11th is going to look like a slap on the wrist when the terrorist come back for round two. We might intercept them the first time, even the first few times, but eventually they’ll get through and do some serious damage. I wonder who Bush will go to war with when that happens? I wonder if they sell gasmasks on ebay?
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A successful war and $1.4 trillion in tax cuts for Bush and a couple of his drinking buddies and the Dow still holds investor dollars like a coffee filter that had a close encounter with a round of buckshot. Do I smell a like-father-like-son scenario brewing?
Gee, you didn’t think they’d be such a pushover two weeks ago. But that’s the beauty of your position - if the U.S. gets clobbered, you get to say "I told you so - the might of the U.S. is no match for the ferocity of the Iraqi people defending their homeland!. And if it goes well, you can claim that the U.S. is just a big bully pushing around defenseless people. Good gig.
You’d think you’d learn not to say things like this before all the evidence is in, considering how often your pronouncements have been wrong. Why don’t we just wait for a couple of weeks, huh? Let the shooting die down, let the scientists who have been in hiding show up to talk to U.N. inspectors, etc. I suspect we’ll find plenty of WMD.
As for al-Qaida… Weren’t you watching the news? There were tons of them fighting with Ansar al-Islam up North. Again, let’s wait and see what the U.S. finds once they have time to start rifling through all the paperwork they’ve been collecting.
Excellent liberal rant! You managed to work the military-industrial complex, global warming, and SUVs into the same paragraph. That’s the leftist trifecta, man.
Let’s see… There is an operation. It is in Iraq. It freed the people. Damn, what should we call it?
Got a cite for that one?
Yep. That bad U.S. built those prisons, told Saddam to brutalize his people, and kept him in power. Bad, bad U.S.! Saddam himself? Well, he should have been negotiated with. If only we could have gotten him to give up his WMD peacefully, we could have left him alone to lounge in his palaces, and let his people rot in those jails. The dream of the anti-war coalition.
Hiding in a bat-infested cave scratching his scrofulous genitalia, hoping one of those bunker-busters doesn’t find him, is my guess. Unlike his main strategist, who was captured recently, or a few hundred of his soldiers, who are now in tiny bits in northern Iraq.
Uh, no. They just came back for round two. Hundreds of them swarmed into Iraq to defend Saddam. Once there, they learned that wild fanaticism and a willingness to die are a poor match for steely professionalism and a willingness to help them achieve their goal.
Only in your feverish dreams. But I’ll give you this - it takes a lot of chutzpah to claim on a day like today that the Bush administration is doomed.
Let’s not rush to calling this war over, or even close to being over. I will bet that fighting goes on for a few more weeks at least.
Oh, and Cainth, you forgot one minor winner in this operation-- the Iraqi people. I don’t care if that was not our main intention (I don’t think it was) they still are free of one of the most ruthless dictators of the modern era.
So how long will the media keep on its war footing coverage and avoid detailed analysis of this country’s dismal economy, the politicizing of of the rank and file federal government, the undercutting of consumer and evironmental protection legislation, the budget woes of too many state governments, the hidden unemployed growing everyday, yadda, yadda?
Sure, I’m happy the Iraqi people appear to be freed from a tyrant. It ain’t over until the fat lady sings. Yet with practically everyone glued to the center-stage Broadway production Bush has orchestrated so well (with substantial help from an idiot Congress), what really scares me are all the off-Broadway productions Bush is pushing with his agenda.
Sure, we freed an entire country from evil. But at what long-term cost to us? How much damage to our international relations have been done with a one-track attitude? No, I am not saying we should not have had this war. I am saying the process the Bush Administration took to “justify” this war and pursue it was, and still is, wrong.
Gee, you didn’t think they’d be such a pushover two weeks ago.
If you recall I was describing the mishaps and missteps of the US military at the start of the war. Go find a post where I say I thought Saddam wouldn’t be a pushover. You’ll be looking from some time.
**But that’s the beauty of your position - if the U.S. gets clobbered, you get to say "I told you so - the might of the U.S. is no match for the ferocity of the Iraqi people defending their homeland!. And if it goes well, you can claim that the U.S. is just a big bully pushing around defenseless people. **
I do no such thing. I’m not a fan of either military. I think this war is complete bullshit, and I’m glad the worst of the combat looks nearly completed. Also, Sam, I don’t go around making false presumptions about your views, let’s stick to the issues shall we?
**You’d think you’d learn not to say things like this before all the evidence is in, considering how often your pronouncements have been wrong. **
What, no cite for that accusation? I may get the details fussed now and again, but no worse than the average doper. Also unlike some, I’m quick to admit when I’m mistaken.
But, precisely what pronouncement did I make? Three weeks in, troops in the heart of Baghdad, and we haven’t found the WMD that Iraq was supposedly brimming with. It’s a perfectly valid observation that I felt the need to point out. I guess I was pissed by all the jubilation over the shortsighted victories in this atrocity and I wanted to put a damper on the party. Plus I got my wallet pick pocketed yesterday, and I’m anal retentive about protecting my wallet… it didn’t help my mood.
And, If you’ve read others of my posts, you’ve read that I never questioned Saddam’s possessions of weapons.
**As for al-Qaida… Weren’t you watching the news? There were tons of them fighting with Ansar al-Islam up North. Again, let’s wait and see what the U.S. finds once they have time to start rifling through all the paperwork they’ve been collecting. **
I also have no doubt somewhere amongst the networks of scoundrels al Queda and Saddam have crossed paths. They share common interests, weapons of mass destruction, hatred for the United States. All I’m pointing to is that the justifications for this war still haven’t surfaced three weeks into the confrontation.
**Excellent liberal rant! You managed to work the military-industrial complex, global warming, and SUVs into the same paragraph. That’s the leftist trifecta, man. **
I take that as a sincere compliment. You should check out my nationstate… the only things that gets any money is education, and welfare, and I have just enough pro biz policies to keep me in the Scandinavian Liberal Paradise – Social Democrat range.
**Let’s see… There is an operation. It is in Iraq. It freed the people. Damn, what should we call it? **
Gulf War II: Finishing Daddy’s Job
Operation Halliburton
The War to keep your mind off Osama and the economy?
They just don’t have the same ring do they?
**Got a cite for that one? **
You know it really pisses me off how few people are clued into the US role in Saddam and the Baathist regime’s rise to power… But, Sam, I know for a fact you’re an extremely well read person, how the hell can you not know about shit like this. It’s not even obscure information. Here’s a quite recent NYTimes piece on it.
**Yep. That bad U.S. built those prisons, told Saddam to brutalize his people, and kept him in power. Bad, bad U.S.! Saddam himself? Well, he should have been negotiated with. If only we could have gotten him to give up his WMD peacefully, we could have left him alone to lounge in his palaces, and let his people rot in those jails. The dream of the anti-war coalition. **
Saddam’s a monster no doubt about it, but he’s our monster. He’s a rouge leader, a former US patsy that we lost control of like the Shah, bin Laden, Pinochet, or Noreaga. And fuck negotiated with. He should have been dealt with long ago by a unified UN body with some teeth behind its legislation enforcing valid humanitarian violations. So should the al Saud’s and every other criminal despot on the globe. That’s an anti-war coalition dream. Peacekeeping not drumbeating and saber-rattling.
**Hiding in a bat-infested cave scratching his scrofulous genitalia, hoping one of those bunker-busters doesn’t find him, is my guess. Unlike his main strategist, who was captured recently, or a few hundred of his soldiers, who are now in tiny bits in northern Iraq. **
Interesting guess… Now where’s Jimmy Hoffa?
**Uh, no. They just came back for round two. Hundreds of them swarmed into Iraq to defend Saddam. Once there, they learned that wild fanaticism and a willingness to die are a poor match for steely professionalism and a willingness to help them achieve their goal. **
Your overconfidence is frightening. I hope you recall this denunciation of the terrorist’s potential to harm us if and when, god forbid, they do attack again.
**Only in your feverish dreams. But I’ll give you this - it takes a lot of chutzpah to claim on a day like today that the Bush administration is doomed. **
Chutzpah, is one thing I’ve got in spades.
man, can I get just one typo free post out…
looking for some time