Of popularity and charts, top40 pop and rock and history

When I was a kid, dating back to even before I developed a liking for rock music and only liked classical, I was under the impression that the most popular music (sales, requests to the radio, concurrent listeners right now, etc) was that stuff called rock 'n roll, or just rock.

This impression continued when I got older and started listening to it myself. It’s what most of the kids listened to and danced to. There were exceptions: the self-styled “cowboy” kids listened to country, I was not alone in appreciating classical, and the black kids mostly listened to something called “soul” although there was some crossover.

At some later point I picked up on the fact that there was this genre of music called “top 40 pop” and that in most of the country it was what sold and was what people danced to and whatnot, and that rock, like country and the others, was a minority genre. And top 40 was sort of a mixture of vapid easy listening and disco.

Since then, I gather that rock has continued to decline in quantitative appeal, top 40 has virtually merged with what used to be “soul” and is now called “r & b” (rhythm and blues, but doesn’t sound like what I think of as “the blues”) as well as the more popped-up version of rap called “hip hop”.

But looking back, was I wrong in thinking that rock was the most popular (in terms as specified above) form of music back when, or was it always something different from and less popular than “top 40” or whatever name it flew under back then?

Are there different charts with different measures of popularity, one of which did crown rock “king” for a duration, whereas “top 40” is a different gauge? I could see how that could be. I’d think classical would rule the charts, for instance, if you asked for compositions that had been most requested, most performed, and most recorded over a one-century period.

Well, Billboard breaks down their weekly charts into various categories of course: “Urban”, “Country”, “Dance”, etc. How (or even if) they correlate them into one chart, I don’t know.

In regards to actual long-term popularity people usually go by two methods: sales and copyright requests. However, I don’t think people have added up, say, all the versions of Pachelbels Canon that have been sold and compared it to all the versions of Bach’s Brandenburg Concerto #2 that have been sold.

Sounds like you need to get crackin’! We eagerly await your results. :wink:

Found an article in the Seattle P.I., which states:

I thought the same as you, rock has declined in its appeal. Not so sure now. Granted, it’s just one article, but I believe it makes sense. I think there were less defined music genres when I was growing up, and so a larger group of songs would have fallen under the rock category. Now that there are even different genres of metal, I think the creation of more categories, is going to take away from the previous larger ones.

I found a chart of oldies music, which seems to suggest songs that would probably be considered rock, easy listening, pop, rockabilly, etc. So while I think some of the songs from that chart might not be classified as rock today, I think some can be, and so I believe rock was as popular as the top 40 stuff. In other words, wouldn’t Del Shannon’s Runaway have been considered rock back then, or maybe Some Kind Of Wonderful? Whereas Bumble Boogie would have been more top 40?

I think you need to focus your question(s) a bit more.

You can go back to the 1950’s and read what songs made up Billboard’s Top 40 chart in any given time period. That term starts about 1958.

They had the Hot 100 a few years before that.