Og Save Me From the Paranoid!

Saturday night I’m out having dinner with a friend I’ve known for nearly 20 years now. He’s always been a bit neurotic, but of late he seemed to be improving. Then the whole war with Iraq happened and the botching of the post-war process seems to have unhinged him. Now, he’s decided that the Illuminati are running everything, and all the bizarro crap you hear on late night talk shows is absolutely true. Chem-trails, the face on Mars, alien space craft at Area 51, all of it. True.

When he told me this, my jaw nearly shattered the table on it’s way down. This is a guy who savaged anyone who didn’t grasp such things as science, how government operates, economics, or any of a number of things, as well as he did (he had a 3.9 grade average in college), and now, he’s saying that all of it is meaningless because it’s all bullshit fed to us by the Illuminati who control the world.

I desperately wanted to choke the living shit out of him when I heard him say it. He’s literally the only person I know IRL whom I can consider to be my intellectual equal in most respects. So, between clenched teeth, I tried to make him see reason.

“Don’t you think that if the Illuminati were really in charge we’d have cooler stuff?” I asked. “After all, they control everything, so they’ve got the best brains on the planet working for them, why don’t we have better stuff?”

“We have exactly the kind of stuff they want us to have.” Was his reply. There seemed to be something small and child-like about him as he said it, he shifted back in his seat, and just kept twisting slightly, as if the possibility of there not being an Illuminati was more frightening to him than the thought of some secret society running things.

“What about ‘chem-trails’?” I asked. “I’ve seen vapor trails for years now. You can’t tell me that they’re some kind of mind control experiment. They’re a natural product of combustion in jet engines.”

“I’ve seen them when there’s been no jets in the sky.” There was that strange shifting again. “If there had been any jets, I’d have heard them. But there weren’t any. Nothing in the sky at all. Just this strange checkerboard pattern.”

I can’t really describe my shock at this point. He and I both share a love of military hardware, and he can quote the stats on the SR-71 from memory! Yet, here he was, denying that any of it mattered. Forget that jets can leave vaportrails while flying so high that the sound never reaches the ground, forget that he might not hear them when he’s inside his apartment, forget that high altitude winds can follow patterns vastly different than those on the ground. Nope. It’s all some kind of plot.

“Why?” I asked him. “Why are they doing this? For what end? They must have some reason behind it? And what are they spraying?”

“Who knows?” More of that odd shifting of his, which just inflamed my anger. “It could be mind control substances, or something to protect us from diseases, or something to thin the herd out.”

I was spitting mad at this point, trying to push back the frothing rage that was forming inside of me. I knew that if I let my passions get out of hand, I’d create a scene inside the restaurant, and the last thing I wanted to do was to jump up and start screaming, “You stupid fuck! Why the fuck are you doing this, you know it’s all bullshit!” Yet I couldn’t clamp down on my anger well enough to be able to rationally refute his statements. I felt betrayed by his sudden adoption of these bizarre beliefs. These seemed worse, IMHO, than his misogynist views or his ardent following of the likes of Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh.

“What’s it all for?” I demanded. “I mean, if those guys really control the world, why hide it? Take the JFK assassination, for example, suppose it were to come out tomorrow that it really was a CIA plot, what would it change? There’s nothing we could do about it. Any of the players would either be dead or really old men. If they chose to tell us about it and say, ‘Ha!’ without prosecuting the survivors, there ain’t shit we could do about it.”

“I’ll tell you why they don’t say anything about it.” He seemed, I don’t know, smug, confident, at this point in the conversation. “Rednecks. They’re scared of rednecks with guns. Because if word got out, there’s plenty of rednecks with guns who’d love to shoot government people.”

:smack: These guys have captured alien technology, nuclear weapons, the entire germ warfare divisions of every nation on Earth, and they’re concerned about a bunch of guys with pop guns? Come on! If these guys want to trim the entire population of the Earth down to a chosen few, they can do it easy. Just lob a few nukes, or release a virus that only the select have been vaccinated against, and you’re done.

The exchange was more than what I’ve recounted here, but I can’t bear myself having to rehash it all out. I wanted to ask him what the hell’s the point of ruling the world? I mean, once you’ve gotten control of the Earth, what else is there to do? Start breeding the master race? And if you’ve gotten control of the Earth, why hide it? There’s nothing anybody can do to stop you. Nothing at all, and you would know this, because you control everything!

Tuckerfan,

What does ‘fnord’ mean? I mean, seriously? Is that the mating call of the Illuminati? Some sort of attack order, ala ‘Climb Mount Nittka’ or ‘Tora, Tora, Tora?’ Tell us, or I swear, you’ll have Special Agent Denton on you in a flash! (Ok, that was weak.)

The Illuminati? Your friend really is fnord crazy.

What does what mean? :wink:

In the book Illuminatus! by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, “fnord” is a word which the conscious mind can’t read, but the subconscious picks up on it and feels fear, so to help control folks, the Illuminati work the word into things like newspaper articles.

(BTW, Illuminatus! is a pretty entertaining read, even if it is all BS and has inspired innumerable nutjobs.)

I’m unexplainably terrified by this OP.

Ah, bugger. On preview, fushj00mang saw the fnords first.

From Robert Anton Wilson’s Illuminatus! trilogy, part of the global conspiracy of the Illuminati is to sensitise everyone to the word “fnord” to such an extent that they are momentarily terrified to the extent that they block the word “fnord” from their mind. If the Illuminati want a newspaper article to ratchet up world paranoia, they’ll include fnords at a rate of one to every five words.

One of the first steps to breaking the conspiracy is learning to see the fnords.

Tucker, I have to say that by the end of your post… you were beginning to sound like one of them. Not the shadowy world-controlling them, I mean, but the assorted tinfoil-hat-wearing them.

“Thank God I don’t believe in the secret rulers of the world. Imagine what the secret rulers of the world might do to me if I did!”
-Jon Ronson, Them

Then I’m not going nuts!

I was seeing those little italicized letters and was going… huh? why’s that there? WHAT’S HE DOING?

And starting to feel paranoid, but then I noticed they spelled out fnord and all was fine.

Is it possible that your friend has acquired a mental illness?

Haj

If “fnord” causes anxiety, I’d think Anne MCCaffrey would have driven me off the deep end long ago.

I also wonder if your friend might be ill. How old is he? Has he ever shown any indication of a mental illness in the past? If he’s always railed against these concepts in the past maybe he’s experienced some sort of personality altering disorder.

But…I can read the “fnords” here…does that mean I’m incorruptible?

:wink:

And what the hell are “chem trails?”

The vapor trails jets leave in the sky are actually chemicals being deposited in the atmosphere. I shan’t hazard a guess as to why - the helicopter activity around here has increased lately.

Wow, great job on the coding, Tuck. That’s a pisspile of italics on and off. Too bad about the whackjob friend, though. A little paranoia goes a long way, I always say.

Soylent Green IS people!

George Carlin once said something to the effect of:

“If you believe there’s an invisible man in the sky, and he can see and hear everything you do, and will GET YOU if you step outside the boundaries and rules he has established, some of which make no sense at all… then you must be mentally ill, no?”

No, that’s not exactly what he said, but it was close enough. Basically, Carlin was making fun of belief systems, and ridiculing those who desperately cling to them as a way to get through their lives.

I don’t think anyone’s crazy just for being religious. There is such a thing as holiness, and even spirituality, even if God does not exist.

It sounds to me like your buddy has adopted what I think of as a toxic belief system – the idea that the Trilateral Commission or the Bavarian Illuminati or the Enlightened Seers of the Order Of the Crimson Dawn or whatever has established control over the most minute details of our lives.

Well, this is true, to some extent. Everything I see and hear and do is controlled, to some extent by my society. If, on the other hand, everything I see/hear/do was controlled by ONE PERSON, or even one organization… well… this would be pretty scary.

On the other hand, if it were true, I think we’d be able to figure this out pretty quick. Frankly, I don’t think any one organization is that clever, that competent, or that sneaky. McDonalds’ spends zillions on advertising and public relations every year, and still makes incredibly boneheaded mistakes during lawsuits that make them look like indifferent moneygrubbing villains… sometimes, even when they AREN’T.

Sure, sometimes unpleasant and immoral things are perpetrated by the powers that be. LSD experiments on soldiers and prisoners. Tests of various gases in urban areas. Illegal dumps.

But you know what? There is a golden rule here which has never failed me.

NEVER ATTRIBUTE TO MALICE THAT WHICH CAN BE ADEQUATELY EXPLAINED BY STUPIDITY.

Stupidity is far more common than actual viciousness. And stupidity seems to be kind of a constant in human affairs. When human beings organize to form corporations and governments, it mutates into organized stupidity, a form of stupidity unlike anything any individual could ever imagine.

And it’s pervasive.

This is, I believe, why no successful society is ever going to hold together if under the iron heel of One Government, One Law, One Rule. 1984 is certainly a creepy story, and it could work in the short run… but never in the long.

The Soviet Union ruled with an iron hand… but it died inside its first century.

Huge corporations that once ruled their markets, like Sears/Roebuck, have faded and gone.

This too, shall pass. Because of human stupidity. Because of Corporate stupidity. Because stupidity permeates all.

Now tell me again how the Secret Illuminated Masters are in control of everything? And they have somehow banished stupidity? Yeah. Right. In a world run by the Commission, we would not now be looking like fools in Iraq. We would be getting homogenized and fictionalized news while Illuminati Death Squads raked the Iraqi villages, tortured answers out of folks, and cleaned out rebels, in preparation for the New Commercial Iraqi Society.

And that’s assuming the Illuminati cared what we thought in the first place.

Your friend has a new belief system, that’s all. Attacking it is no good; belief systems often thrive under attack. Just be his friend, that’s all. Sooner or later, it will pass, or he will go insane, one or the other; that’s the general rule of toxic belief systems, and if he’s really as clever as you think he is, he’ll dope it all out at one point or another.

Just stick by him, and try not to laugh too hard when he finally wises up.

:cool:

“He’s not dead, he’s just pining for the fnords.”

Tuck, that made my head hurt.

You’d better actually have an oddball friend, or my migraine shall make me wroth with thee.

Speaking of toxic belief systems, these people seem to be worshipping Danny Partridge/Danny Bonaduce (they seem to find the two interchangeable - a sure sign of healthy psychology, no?) They were, however, able to establish that he does indeed have red hair.

All I can say to that is I am planning on seeing you Saturday, and I will have the swords with me. For fencing, only for fencing, mods! That and, “Sir, I assure you, that parrot is dead!” :smiley:

CJ

I don’t think that “acquired” is the right word here. He’s always been a bit (okay, okay, really) neurotic, but he has improved or so it seemed until lately. I’ve noticed some “odd” things about him, that taken singly wouldn’t indicate a mental problem, but added together hint that something’s wrong (and yes, in the past, it’s been suggested by numerous folks that he go see a shrink, but he won’t), when he started spouting that crap on Saturday it made me nervous. I mean, this-guy-I’m-talking-to-is-going-to-be-buying-a-small-cabin-in-Montana-soon, nervous.

He works for a major hospital in town (he’s one of their IT guys), makes about twice what I do, and was talking about buying a house, until I mentioned what happened with the mortgage on my trailer (it’s been resold to about half a dozen lenders over the years). That really seemed to bother him. He immediately dropped the idea of buying a house because of it. He’s gradually converting to vegetarianism (No, I don’t think that’s a sign of mental illness, being a vegetarian) because he’s “loosing the taste” for meats, he’s suddenly concerned about getting into shape (he’s always been a bit pudgy, but never obese), and for a guy who can barely figure out how to check the air in his tires, he’s gotten interested in restoring a car (this is a guy who can’t stand the thought of getting dirty).

The only thing that I can think of, is that with his 36th birthday rapidly approaching and him finding himself not where he wants to be in his life, that he’s experienced some kind of “psychic break” and has decided that it must be the result of some conspiracy that he’s not been able to achieve his goals in life. He cannot concieve of the fact that either his goals were too high to begin with, or that he didn’t do the things necessary to make them happen. (Years ago, a bunch of us told him that if he ever wanted to accomplish the things in his life that he talked about, he was going to have to make some changes in his actions. He utterly dismissed that possibility, without weighing the merits of what we were saying.)

I certainly think that therapy would be good for him as he doesn’t understand how to relate to people very well, and I am beginning to think that he might just become dangerous to either himself or society if this trend of his continues, but there’s nothing I can do about it, that I can think of. I can’t have him committed, I can advise him to go see a shrink, but he won’t listen, and even if I could talk his family into telling him to go see a shrink, he wouldn’t listen to them. (In fact, I’ve no doubt that he’d become irrationally angry and refuse to have anything to do with them again, if they were to tell him that.)