I think, technically, in order to be prophetic it has to be correct.
In fairness, Jesus spent as much time punching bad people with his right hand as he did healing the sick with his left. The whole “Christ was always nice” belief is not really representative of the Gospels.
From a prophetic (which means delivering a righteous message from God, not predicting the future) where is he wrong? Please provide a time reference from the sermone so I can give it a fair listen.
I’m not saying Rev, W is always right, just that his message should be appreciated by the religious, not scorned.
I mean that it will be prophetic if God turns his back on America and we all end up scattered to the winds and enslaved by the Babylonians and roasted in ovens and what not.
If these things don’t happen then his sermon isn’t prophetic, whether or not his criticisms are valid.
ETA: Oh, I see what you’re saying. Fair enough.
If that’s what he was doing, he did it quite badly. He’s not saying “God has damned America” (perfect tense)or “God damns America” (present) or “God will damn America” (future) but “God DAMN America” (imperative). That’s not calling on America to please God, that’s calling on God to punish America.
I’m a fan of Obama and do not hold him responsible for the words of his pastor, but Wright’s sermon was offensive and incendiary, and was probably intended to be so.
Have you heard it in context of the actual sermon, or just the clip? What if I clipped your above quote and all that I used was where you said,
The entire context of your post would be lost and the meaning people would get would be quite different from what you intended.
I am sorry to say I think this is going to work. Drudge now has headlines screaming McCain is now in the lead, the conventional wisdom was too confident. Kerry and Gore supposed to win as well but in the final day they lost it. I don’t want this to be true but when it comes down to brass tacks the people are not going to vote a liberal black man into office.
Maybe this is a sign America is headed into the abyss, I believed it when Bush was reelected. I hope I’m wrong.
I have listened to it in context.
I think intelligent readers would look to what I actually wrote and think you were being an asshole for deliberately distorting the meaning (purely hypothetical, as that’s obviously not what you intended). On the other hand, the meaning of this is pretty clear:
“God damn America” is not a neutral statement of fact, it is as much an invocation and expression of the speaker’s desire as “God bless America.”
I don’t think so. It’s such a minor thing at this stage. And lest we forget, there was a time McCain was considered pretty funny.
Obama was on there once, and was supposed to make a second appearance in September. He withdrew after one of the hurricanes, probably expecting that if he went, McCain’s people would draw up campaign ads saying how inappropriate it was for him to go on SNL after a hurricane had flooded people out of their homes.
Biden was on SNL for many years back when he called himself Phil Hartman.
You can find Obama’s speech on race here. It’s called “A More Perfect Union” and it’s in the bottom row. One of his best moments in the campaign, I think.
Thank you Marley23.
To be fair, McCain can still be quite funny. The recent Al Smith dinner speeches were both funny, but I have to give McCain the edge for better delivery. This doesn’t effect my belief that he’d be a dreadful President, but I have to give credit where it’s due.
I hear that Drudge has uncovered a video of Obama unrolling his prayer rug in Wright’s Christian church and praying to Mecca right in the middle of Wright’s weekly anti-American sermon. This is huuuuuuuge!
It gets worse - when someone tried to approach Barack and ask what the hell he was doing, Michelle Obama intervened, shouting “STEP OFF WHITEY!!!”
So did he have “Love” tatooed on the fingers of his left hand and “Hate” on the fingers of his right hand?
Or was it “Heal” and “Hurt”?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Consult the Shroud of Turin!
That’s true for Gore. Most projections predicted that he would win by a very narrow margin. And that turned out to be true, Gore did win the popular vote. A few thousand vote shifts in Florida and Gore would have been president.
But Kerry was never “supposed” to win. He and Bush were running neck and neck. His loss was not a shocking upset.
Take a look at your calendar. This isn’t 2000. This isn’t 2004. This is 2008. Obama is going to win. Count your chickens, people!
The ads are running in Michigan. I thought they gave up and were leaving us alone.
A 527 is running the ads, not the McCain campaign.
On the other hand, McCain is running a couple of truly sleazy ads in which they make a big deal of unfounded charges of cronyism against Obama. Not a single verifiable charge in question, just mud.
The tiny bit of respect that I had held for McCain as a person was just buried under his own mudslide.
Wonder if it is T.bone Pickens again, the prick.
I also wonder why people (and by people, I mainly mean Democrats) memories only go back as far as 2000. Don’t we remember the elections of 1992 and 1996, when we actually won? Even by a substantial amount? So it is possible for a Democrat to win.
Ed
Try reading the Huffington Post - it’s the Drudge report for folks with sense.
They say Obama has it nailed.
Here’s the thing - early voting has made all these last second efforts moot. The race was essentially frozen in mid-October when huge numbers of voters cast their ballots. Anyone how says that anything that comes out in the next two days can change anything is blowing hot air.