No, that’s what you don’t understand. We wouldn’t. Well, I wouldn’t. Der Trihs might, but he hates everything.
This is what I posted on another board:
Seriously, we would have watched it & then mocked the man. We were irreverent little cusses.
On the local news I heard that some parents are objecting locally. But as far as I know, the vocal objection in the one rather conservative small-town school district they were examining was just four families. A drop in the bucket. I suppose one may expect this sort of behavior from, I don’t know, maybe LaRouchians, or at least some right-wing religious fanatics, whoever the President is. So I guess it’s not so bad. But it’s still lame.
And if there are elected public officials getting in on the conspiracy-theorist screeds & screeches–which I don’t recall for (voodoo economics) Reagan, Bubba (alleged murderer) Clinton, or even Shrub (& Og knows we gave Shrub a hard time)–then apparently the GOP is like the LaRouchians now. Possibly less rational.
Three, sir. Or have we not mentioned Reagan & both Bushes?
This is an amazing stance. You’re basically saying that our politics should be war unceasing.
I agree that “respecting the office” is a bullshit reason to let a man abuse the office. But it is acceptable to humor the putz & mock him later.
I suppose Waldo Pepper would think us smarter to declare them traitors. I’m considering it, but I suspect it’s a trap.
This has been covered. But good god, I have no idea what your school experience was like, but we were never so regimented we couldn’t squeeze in a shuttle launch or fire drill. Do you have any professional experience in education? 'Cos this is an ignorant AND stupid statement.
Different race, anyway. Come the purge, we’ll all be classed as mud people, even my white arse.
It’s not your country, just some [assonant epithet redacted due to board policy]
Yeah, I think some of us grew up in neighborhoods where the aspiring fratservatives pretended they WERE America, & we got alienated.
Huh. Chrome accepts “fratservative” as a word. That’s odd.
To those who say that the kids re being asked to identify the president’s “talking points”: I seem to recall that a common exercise for me in my school years was to read a passage and then answer questions like, “What point is the author trying to make?”; “What arguments doe the author use in support of that point?”; “Does tha author make a persuasive case?”; and so on. I remember the dreaded shelf of SRAs, which were full of that kind of thing. Now, I am not an educator, but I believe that the point was to teach us reading comprehension and critical thinking skills. I may be wrong.
I don’t get it, Magiver, you rant about what a waste of time the 20 minute speech is but say not a peep about the parents that will make their kids skip a full day of classes to avoid “indoctrination”.
I had to laugh about the whackjob the local news picked to represent the whackjobs. One point she used is that these were her kids not the President’s and he doesn’t get to decide what her kids hear. I doubt very much that she goes to school with her kids everyday to make sure the teachers aren’t telling her kids stuff she doesn’t want them to hear or that she attends every PTA and school board meeting to make sure they aren’t discussing telling her kids stuff she doesn’t want them to hear.
No, the President is not raising your kids, neither are the teachers, school boards, or televisions. If you were a parent who let your children experience the world and then discussed things with them rationally so they could learn to think for themselves then you wouldn’t need to worry so much about what anyone else tells them.
You’re right – I guess I’m not so much ashamed of America as a whole – but right now, a good deal of my fellow citizens are just absolutely making me want to cry. I didn’t like Bush, but I wasn’t one of the ones who wanted to go to Canada. (I might have JOKED about it, but I never said it seriously.)
What president HASN’T, at the very LEAST, visited a school or two, and made some standard speech about, “work hard, don’t do drugs, stay in school, obey your mom and dad, don’t wear white after Labor Day, yada yada yada?” Magiver, so working hard, and staying in school is “political mantra?” That’s somehow fucking socialist? So what other message is there – drop out and be lazy?
Would ALL guest speakers then be a waste of time? For the girls in my junior class, we had several women come in who had suffered from breast cancer, and go over the causes and the impact, and all that.
A LOT of schools in my area used to try and get Matthew Ridgeway to come and speak to their classes. Unfortunately, he was rather private, and preferred not to do that kind of thing.
If I were a teacher, I’d require my classes to watch things like presidential inaugurations and such. These are HISTORY, current events are HISTORY, and they’re a part of our lives. What better way to get kids involved in the community?
You disgust me. Mr. Moto – and they were wrong. Just as those doing so now are wrong.
What people should remember is that the United States - America - is an idea. It’s the first country that was founded on ideas and ideals, however hypocritical or contradictory those ideas may have been at the time or from hindsight. Liberals are tied to ideas, whereas Conservatives seem tied to the land itself. This is their land, where their ancestors fought and died and lived and made a life for their family. So when some, usually over-reacting Liberals threaten to leave the US, it’s usually because they are imagining a day when the America that represents and is composed of these ideas will no longer exist. Again, this is in contrast to Conservatives who are probably more likely to think “I will support my country, right or wrong.”
I choose to point out, and be the first one to do so, that Nancy Reagan’s “Just Say No” was far more indoctrination than “read your books kiddies” could ever be construed to be.
