When it first started leaking it was 1 foot. Therefore we know all we needed to know. God you are an idiot.
Note of course ,you were one who said offshore rigs were completely safe when the subject was broached months ago. Then the gulf disaster happened and you quieted down. Now we have a new one .
Can you image, I think the rigs should all be inspected thoroughly before continuing.
The repubs gutted regulation and oversight for a decade. Now we have to rectify it.
I knew what it was in reference to.
Could be worse. It could be a mile long Martin or Charlie Sheen.
I hear Martin Sheen’s already a mile long. *If *you know what I mean.
I mean he has a long penis.
Now, this, I found amusing.
And turtles all the way down? 
Do ‘we’ know that it wasn’t an oil rig yet? Do ‘we’ realize what the implications of the fact that it’s NOT an oil rig might be? Do ‘we’ know this?
As for calling God an idiot, I’m fine with that…though, frankly, if God has two brain cells to rub together s/he/it is probably thinking ‘Oh…the IRONY!’…
-XT
It’s cool about the oil. It’s disappeared. Nature itself took care of the problem, like Archie Bunker flushing a toilet.
It is not in the news anymore and BP has done so much to apologize to the American people for this inconvenience. The beaches are clean, no animals were harmed, everything is good. Besides, oil is natural. It comes from the ground. It’s not like BP polluted the Gulf with, Busch Beer for example.
BUY MORE MISSISSIPPI CATFISH!
OK, I went back and read the entire thread to try and catch these implications.
I didn’t. I guess I’ll have to ask.
Is your point that gonzomax used the term “drilling rig,” meaning a big mechanical structure that has a pipe going into an underground oil reserve (and is now leaking oil) when he should have properly used the term “production platform,” meaning a big mechanical structure that has a pipe going into an underground oil reserve (and is now leaking oil)?
Because my understanding is that what everyone is concerned about is that this might be a big mechanical structure that has a pipe going into an underground oil reserve (and is now leaking oil)…not whether gonzomax used “rig” instead of “platform.”
Really??
The point is that this situation is nothing like the recent large scale oil spill. For one thing, from what I’ve read, there is no oil leak, even from the reserve. Most likely the ‘spill’ seems to have come from the equipment and stores on the rig itself.
Do you have a cite that the store is leaking, because that was kind of the point I was making…from what I’ve heard it’s not (even if it is, it’s an oil STORE…it’s not a well head leak which is a completely different animal). If it is, then while I’m not going to take back my assertion that gonzo is an idiot of Biblical proportions, I’ll concede that I was wrong about the leaking part at least. What I was reading yesterday said they have maybe 30-40k gallons in store, but that the ‘production’ part was actually natural gas (and that the well head properly shut down and there is no ‘leak’, either oil or natural gas). I admit, I haven’t read anything new today, so maybe more information is available?
It matters not whether it’s a ‘rig’ or a ‘platform’, the part that is incorrect is that it’s similar to Deep Horizon in any way, shape or form. Including the frantic ‘oh gods ANOTHER LEAK!’ aspect to gonzo’s posting on this subject. It’s not similar, though there is a pretty apparent attempt to spin this whole thing in that way, to make a connection that isn’t there because people are still rather wild eyed and frantic over the ACTUAL large scale oil spill.
-XT
Well, for the average person with little or no working knowledge of the oil industry (i.e., me), they sure sound similar. There was an explosion on an oil rig in the Gulf. The last time I heard of that happening, a massive oil leak resulted; fortunately, this explosion didn’t result in a leak, so clearly there are differences, but they sure sounded similar at the outset. If I ask someone to send me their artwork in a vectorized EPS file, they may send me an EPS file that I discover contains a raster image instead; that’s frustrating, but I understand that most people don’t know what “vector” and “raster” are, much less the difference between them, so that person just saved their file as an EPS and assumed that was the same as what I was asking for. It’s understandable that people outside of a specialized field don’t know how to evaluate what goes on in that field.
It doesn’t seem to stop them from having an opinion, though.
OOOOOH. You mean “now that time has passed and we have more information, we’ve learned…” Well, that’s not very interesting. Of course later posters have access to more recent information.
That doesn’t make the initial responses invalid. The initial information was that there was spilled oil. The current information is that they can’t find it. That doesn’t necessarily mean it didn’t leak, and it doesn’t make people who were concerned about the initial reports “idiots.”
They may be idiots for other reasons, of course.
Right…but look at what I was responding too, and WHEN I was responding to it.
This was last night, not yesterday morning when the accident story first broke. Look at the level of lies and misinformation and pure ignorance here. Such as: I never said offshore rigs were completely safe…the guys is delusional. He’s implying this is a new disaster (and this is, again, last night, not right after this happened…even right after it happened I didn’t see many, save folks like Huff, saying the sky was falling). Republicans gutting or not gutting regulations had little or nothing to do with this recent accident.
And so on. This incident is nothing like the Deepwater Horizon accident. And by yesterday mid-morning that was pretty clear to anyone with either a clue or without an agenda oriented axe to grind…or, in the case of gonzo, someone with more than two brain cells that could be rubbed together.
-XT
This latest instance precipitated some responses yesterday that reminded me of an earlier concern among some people here and in the news that the coincidental rash of earthquakes around the world this year were somehow connected and that justification for a greater fear may be valid. Well, they weren’t and it’s not.
Same with this platform fire. As mentioned several times upthread, this is a fundamentally different event than what happened with the Deepwater Horizon rig. It’s apples and oranges, yet there are those that would immediately point, draw incorrect conclusions and unjustly penalize one for the other. That’s what’s troubling now to those in the industry and others dependant on it, that improper parallels will be drawn and public sentiment will sway and encourage penalties when none are due.
Had this happened a year ago no one would have been alarmed and a confidence would have been in place that a reasonable investigation would occur and the problem rectified because it would be seen as an isolated event. In truth, it still is. Until you hear of loss of control on a number of producing platforms operated by several different companies your faith should remain intact that the industry and the regulations are performing both as designed and as desired.
Well, no. There’s nothing on God’s green Earth that could ever prevent people from having opinions on topics they’re not well-versed in. If I only had opinions about things I know a lot about, I might not have any opinions at all.
I hear ya, pal!