Why is a moderator allowed to break the rules and then get out of it by moderating themself?
If long-term posters are held to a higher standard because they “should know better” then moderators should be held to a higher standard again, shouldn’t they?
This question has been asked somewhere around a dozen times now, mostly in a calm manner, by a number of different people. Why is it being ignored?
While the moderation here isn’t perfect, it is certainly a few miles ahead of every other message board I’ve ever been on. Seriously, go over to Something Awful and try complaining about the mods there. You’ll be lucky if getting ignored is all that happens to you.
I know saying “It could be worse” isn’t an excuse for the moderators here not being perfect, but I think it is an excuse that while they aren’t perfect, they’re doing as well as can be reasonably expected for an Internet message board. Are some mods here better than others? Hell yeah. This isn’t ideal, but it’s about as close to it as we can get. There is room for improvement even with the mods here, but I’d say most of the things I’ve read about in ATMB are pretty insignificant.
The moderators here are human, they will drop the ball sometimes, even fairly often, but that’s going to happen no matter what board you’re on.
So, if “this is the place”, would you care to dive into the actual subject we’re here to discuss instead of continually offering your vagueness?
For the third (or fourth, or fifth) time? Please?
So, still not willing to even address the issue that started 5 days ago? Is that the take away here?
I would suggest that twickster is holding the bat upside down.
Any apology that starts with “I’m sorry you feel” or “I’m sorry if” is worse than no apology at all. Really. I tell my kids this.
It seems to me that a lot of this entire mess could have been avoided with some early responses from the moderation team here, rather than radio silence for pages and days, followed by a non-apology and continued failure to actually respond to the questions being asked.
I think most of the mods here do a generally decent job, but stuff like this is just frankly bewildering.
No, see - this is the place for “questions”. It doesn’t say anything about “answers”.
I think if you took a minute to appreciate the view from the bottom floor you’d see the situation differently. When a mod is allowed to hide from a thread, even sheltered from it, we see a double standard. No one has asked for a ritual seppuku here. A simple claim of ownership and an apology might have put this fire out three threads ago.
Jimmy, is that you?? I already told you that when your sister ate the cookie before dinner and there were no consequences, I had just gotten a great (and I mean Grrrrrrrreat) pounding from Dad, so it didn’t bother me much. I was in a good mood, sue me. But when you ate the cookie, I was PMSing and had just gotten off the phone with my that deranged Grandmother of yours . Besides, your room was mess, so the ‘no dessert’ thing was justified imo. And btw, when you’re a mother, you can be mean.
In fairness, you may have missed my edit: ETA: I am no way comparing people who complain about mod action to school children. The intent was to show that it is often impossible, unreasonable to expect rules to be applied exactly the same every time. Circumstances and human nature come in to play.
The first thread was closed because I thought the situation was resolved and the OP was done with it.
The second thread was closed because it had degenerated into uncivil behavior and nothing more.
Who is hiding from what? I’m answering your questions.
I don’t think it’s impossible or unreasonable to ask that moderators have their actions overseen as the rest of us do, and that they not be able to get away with breaking the rules with impunity if it’s shortly followed up by a “Oh dear, I was so naughty, wasn’t I. Don’t do that again me” post, when other posters have been explicitly told they’re being warned or modded because they’re long-term posters and should know better.
No, you’re not. You’re still ignoring the question that lead, even indirectly, to this situation in the first place.
Since you didn’t address my question the first time:
Do you think that when this sort of thing happens again in the future, you could, you know, moderate the discussion so that it doesn’t “degenerate into uncivil behavior” and those of us who actually want to discuss things reasonably can do that? Is that a reasonable request?
I reported one of Quasi’s posts. I don’t, necessarily, think he needs to be warned or banned, but that sort of behavior isn’t acceptable no matter who it’s coming from or why. It derails the discussion and unless you rein it in, your only recourse is to close the thread. So, given that the purpose of a message board is for discussion, how about you take the action that promotes discussion rather than shuts it down?
Is it acceptable for a moderator to officially moderate his/her own posts?
These threads have moved far afield of the original issue - Twix’ behavior. I didn’t agree that she should continue to act with distain towards posters nor be able to wave it away when she does.
That said, since I was one of the posters in the original thread I’d like to go on record as saying I do believe the board is moderated well overall and don’t believe the administration is a joke. Even though I have occasionally grumbled, I have started a mod appreciation thread too. I have nothing against the other mods and Tuba has always been fair and courteous to me.
That assumption was erroneous. Let’s back up and address the first thread’s OP. You may find that this whole matter will dissolve once you do that.
For that matter, who closed the second thread?
Why was there no explanation of why the second thread was closed when it was closed?
Tuba, you’ve had time to address multiple issues that AREN’T the initial issue that started this kerfluffle. It is therefore nigh-impossible to believe that you lack the time to do so.
This is so patently untrue as to be laughable. You have ignored the same questions, asked multiple times, and have only addressed tangential issues or responded to those posts that allow you to practice your martyr act.
Please see posts 30, 49, 61, 70, 71, 73, 74, and 77 for a start. I’m not even going to go back into the other two threads to look for other examples of questions that have been ignored, because that’s your fucking job. If not yours, then someone’s.
We understand that you and the other modemins may have real life or other issues that preclude a quick resolution to issues like this. However, if those issues don’t preclude you coming in here and posting cryptic non-responses, then that excuse becomes a little implausible. Just say you don’t give a fuck what the posters here think, fer crying out loud. It would still be crappy moderation but at least it would be honest.
I’ll give you credit: you’re very good at hanging around and explaining why you don’t have time to hang around and explain.
You’re just not very good at addressing the actual issues people have raised about moderation on these boards.