[QUOTE=asterion]
And no New Mexican thinks of himself as Southern. And don’t get me started on what New Mexicans think of Texas.
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I suppose somebody has to live there, if only to change our tires as we drive through to Arizona.
[QUOTE=asterion]
And no New Mexican thinks of himself as Southern. And don’t get me started on what New Mexicans think of Texas.
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Is your first loyalty to Murphy/Dolan or to Tunstall/Chisum?
[QUOTE=matt_mcl]
Fivesomes don’t just happen, you know.
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Let’s see, 2 hands, 1 mouth, 1 penis, 1 anus. Come on Matt, if you aren’t involved in a six up you aren’t really trying very hard!
Ah who’m I kidding? I had one shot at a threeway with my ex and one of her girlfriends and screwed the pooch.
Okay, not literally.
[QUOTE=elucidator]
Hate to put a hitch in yer giddy-up, podnuh, but speaking as a native peckerwood (Waco…quiet little town…you never heard of it, nothing ever happens there…) you’re buggering an armadilllo, there (don’t ya’ll just love colorful native patwah?)
Texas isn’t part of the South and its not part of the West, nor the Southwest, and don’t even think its part of Oklahoma (the mouth-breather’s Vatican). Texas is Texas, unique, indefinable, and downright pissy about it.
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Hey pal, don’t question my knowledge of this topic. I live in Arizona - we have way more Texans than you.
[QUOTE=Antinor01]
I would suggest in Oklahoma.
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Great. Now I can see where we are going on our next family vacation. I’ll have to explain to airport security why I had to pack my steel toed boots and all of those hankies.
[QUOTE=elucidator]
Texas isn’t part of the South and its not part of the West, nor the Southwest, and don’t even think its part of Oklahoma (the mouth-breather’s Vatican). Texas is Texas, unique, indefinable, and downright pissy about it.
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Oh thank God you said this. I don’t know anyone who considers Texas a southern state, and I was beginning to worry about our education in geography for a while there. My first thought at the mention of OK being southern was “What? That’s over by Texas, and Texas sure the hell isn’t considered part of the south.” Texas is just Texas. Next people will start thinking NY is a New England state.
[QUOTE=Cisco]
Ahh, so you’re saying Oklahoma is an union state. Gotcha.
. . .
Seriously. Quit digging. Oklahomans self-identify as southern. Most non-Oklahomans consider Oklahoma part of the south. Texas, west of Oklahoma, is overwhelmingly considered southern by Texans and non-Texans alike. Perhaps most importantly, Garth Brooks is from Oklahoma. Case closed.
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Texas is West of Oklahoma?
[QUOTE=elucidator]
Hippies did our bit, now its your turn!
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Yeah, but did you choose to be a hippie or were you born that way?
People got some funny ideas, I still don’t see why New Mexico is any improvement over the original.
[QUOTE=LouisB]
Texas is West of Oklahoma?
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[QUOTE=matt_mcl]
Yup.
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A small portion of Texas is west of a portion of Oklahoma, I’ll give you that. As far as it goes, a portion of Mexico is west of a portion of Texas. A portion of Mexico is west of Arizona but I doubt anyone living in Arizona would tell you that Mexico lies to the west.
I’ll also bet no one in either Oklahoma or Texas would identify Texas as being west of Oklahoma and that includes people living in the part that is.
[QUOTE=LouisB]
A small portion of Texas is west of a portion of Oklahoma, I’ll give you that. As far as it goes, a portion of Mexico is west of a portion of Texas. A portion of Mexico is west of Arizona but I doubt anyone living in Arizona would tell you that Mexico lies to the west.
I’ll also bet no one in either Oklahoma or Texas would identify Texas as being west of Oklahoma and that includes people living in the part that is.
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For that matter, a portion of Canada is south of a portion of the US. (Take a look at a map of the Detroit/Windsor area sometime)
[QUOTE=jayjay]
For that matter, a portion of Canada is south of a portion of the US. (Take a look at a map of the Detroit/Windsor area sometime)
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AND, Canada supported the Confederacy in the American Civil War (cite)
Ergo, Canada is actually part of the South, too! (Just like Oklahoma.)
[QUOTE=Sampiro]
New Mexico and Arizona were also Confederate . . .
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Oh, no! The Cornfeds did try to grab them, but they failed.
[QUOTE=jayjay]
For that matter, a portion of Canada is south of a portion of the US. (Take a look at a map of the Detroit/Windsor area sometime)
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Actually, a lot of Canada is south of a portion of the U.S.
Alaska’s a portion, right?
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
Actually, a lot of Canada is south of a portion of the U.S.
Alaska’s a portion, right?
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Isn’t that more east than south?
[QUOTE=LouisB]
A small portion of Texas is west of a portion of Oklahoma, I’ll give you that. As far as it goes, a portion of Mexico is west of a portion of Texas. A portion of Mexico is west of Arizona but I doubt anyone living in Arizona would tell you that Mexico lies to the west.
I’ll also bet no one in either Oklahoma or Texas would identify Texas as being west of Oklahoma and that includes people living in the part that is.
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So you’re saying Texas is southwest of Oklahoma? Doesn’t really change my point.
Seriously, I have NEVER heard ANYONE say Texas isn’t a southern state. Yes, I was making a joke above, but there is truth to it. Arizona is FULL of Texans. I know and have met dozens upon dozens of them in my 5 years here. A typical conversation shortly after meeting someone is they either mention they’re from the south or I ask where they’re from and they reply “the south,” to which I say oh, me too, where abouts? “Texas.”
You know what, I retract all my statements in this thread and respectfully bow out of any further discussion over what is and isn’t “the south.” It occurred to me that this is the second dumbest argument I’ve ever had online.
The dumbest argument I’ve ever had online was over whether or not the final cut of Jersey Girl was what Kevin Smith originally intended it to be.
The dumbest argument I’ve ever had in real life was over whether chrome was a functional accessory or a cosmetic feature. Don’t know how I let myself get sucked into that one.
The dumbest argument I’ve ever witnessed in real life was when two brothers got into a brutal fist fight because one of them said you can help being stupid, but you can’t help being dumb, and the other insisted you can help being dumb, but you can’t help being stupid.
Yup, those are the kind of arguments you witness when you grow up in the sou . . . nevermind :D.
[QUOTE=Cisco]
… they’re from the south or I ask where they’re from and they reply “the south,” to which I say oh, me too, where abouts? “Texas.”
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What you got there is your Texan wannabes. Ask them if they know any Aggie jokes.
[QUOTE=jayjay]
Isn’t that more east than south?
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The thing with Oklahoma is that from most of Oklahoma, you can travel due west and end up in Texas. The same is not true w.r.t. travelling southward from Alaska. In fact, pretty much the only place in Canada you can arrive at by travelling due south from Alaska is a scrap of coastal B.C. as well as the Queen Charlotte Islands.
You can, however, travel due south from Detroit and wind up in Windsor; you could also travel due south from Niagara Falls, New York, and wind up in Fort Erie, Ontario, should you have some burning desire to do so. And that (excluding minor border salients in Ontario and Quebec) is about it in terms of southward migration to Canada.
If your definition of “south of” is that there are points in area A that are at a lower latitude than area B, you don’t even have to appeal to Alaska; more than half of Canada’s population live south of the 49th parallel, an area that includes nearly the entire populated area of Ontario and Quebec as well as the whole of the Maritimes the southern half of Newfoundland, and Victoria, B.C. By that definition, more than half of Canadians are “south of” the continental U.S.