So you have this large circle of people around you who think you are positive and upbeat, yet either NONE of them have adopted children, or you find those of your acquaintance who have quite sick and possibly even evil, yet you manage to hide it very well? Or a third possibility that has not occurred to me?
Not at all surprising. Because you’re delusional & unhinged.
If shaking a man’s hand = forced to be a man vat, then zealot has that covered. Freak out and scream rape when you see a man and voila, no man vat.
ZPG. Zero population growth of ZPG Zealots.
A someone who was adopted, and who buried my beloved adopted father two years ago, you can go to hell.
I am a well adjusted adult now who had the opportunity to grow up with many advantages that I would not have had with my biological parents. Yes I know who they are, and I have a reasonable idea what my life would have been like with them.
You are wrong. Just completely wrong. I guess it’s okay to be wrong, and maybe it’s okay to have these crazy as fuck ideas that you have. But I highly encourage you to STFU about them.
Well, maybe (just as a possibility) because two things that amount to the same thing for one person may not do so for another person. For you and me (at least in many cases), child murdering is child murdering, full stop. But **ZPG **is clearly making distinctions where we aren’t. I don’t think we should simply ignore that. Again, that would be missing an elephant in the room.
Bear with me for a moment, here. I’m thinking on my feet a bit.
For an analogy, think of phonology. Specifically, allophones. These are similar sounds that, in a language, are used to pronounce a single phoneme. To a native speaker of a language, sounds that are allophones will often sound like one and the same sound. But two sounds that are allophonic in one language may not be so in another. For someone speaking a different language, the two sounds may sound very different.
That sounded complicated when I put it like that, but it’s actually dead simple, and an everyday experience. For instance, speakers of some East Asian languages, when learning English, have a notoriously hard time with the difference between “r” and “l”. Right? This is the slightly racist stereotype of the East Asian person who says things like: “I ran a red right” (instead of a red light), or, after surviving a plane crash, exclaims: “I am arrive!” (instead of “I am alive”).
This isn’t just a stereotype, though, it is a real thing. In the person’s native language, the sounds are allophonic (or something close to it), and not used to distinguish meaning. Therefore, they will often literally (or maybe I should say “riterarry”) sound the same to that speaker. It’s a brain thing.
It also works the other way, obviously. In English, aspirated and unaspirated “p” are allophones. These differ in that one is followed by puff of air, and one isn’t. For an English speaker, they both just sound like “p”. However, in other languages, such as Mandarin or Hindi, they are are different phonemes, and used to differentiate meaning. An English speaker, when learning these languages, will often have a very hard time telling the sounds apart. But for a native speaker, the difference is clear, obvious and intuitive. Such a native speaker may be excused for thinking that you’re a bit of a moron if you don’t get it.
So, maybe it could be a bit like that with other kinds of differences, too. Maybe not strictly literally, but something analogous. Culture does influence thinking, after all, Just a thought. And, again: This could be going on in both directions.
Another thing: Motives often matter. Killing your child (or someone else) out of love, because the alternative is perceived as worse than death, is not necessarily the same as doing so from a point of indifference or malevolence. Here’s what **ZPG **is saying:
Isn’t the motive here wanting to spare the child from what is perceived as a worse fate?
Stop trying to stick your dick in the crazy.
Yeah, Martian Bigfoot, stop trying to close the door, it’s not your responsibility. I know you didn’t start this thread to trick the crazy lady into showing herself, but SHE has done that, not you. Not your fault.
It’s a third thing that you wouldn’t know unless you were steeped in the world of clinical psychology. It’s a curious but well-researched fact that individuals who hold deeply to a variety of conspiracy theories that, to an outsider, logically point to that person living in a constant state of fear and paranoia, are actually extremely happy. It’s because they view themselves as Chosen, and thus they are of a select few who can truly see/experience the world- and the only ones In The Right. Being super elevated over everyone around you, regardless of how batshit insane you actually are, apparently gives one a sense of elation.
Seriously, get a room.
*Psst - he did. we’re in it. *
A “well adjusted” adult that reacts profanely to an opinion different than his own, interesting.
You called (by implication,anyway) the beloved parent of the poster “sick.” What kind of response did you expect?
Your opinion seems to be that **leftfield6 **would be better off dead. That’s not just any old difference of opinion.
That swirling cesspool of toxic ideas and unreconstructed half-thoughts that you call a mind is probably unmendable without ballistic intervention – but you might consider seeking help, just in case.
ZPG is the most successful troll in board history. S/He stays in threads answering questions. Its trolling is multi dimensional. I say we must thank this troll or trollesa for many hours of entertainment.
Isn’t it interesting how any concepts that don’t mirror opinions from https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/ are considered trolling by some Dopers? Some of you seriously need to met new people.
No, I called his parents victims of the adoption industry. I wouldn’t have called the person he beloves so much his parent.
What’s interesting is that you believe your opinions are just “different” and not in fact, delusional & unhinged.
Lady, you, in so many words, called my adoptive parents sick and twisted, practically child predators. So, yeah, you can sit over there with the crazy people on the Group W bench.
Martial Bigfoot, I would actually like to thank you for shining a light on **ZPG Zealout,**who, I believe, has now proven to set a new bar for “WTF” on the 'Dope. I’ve seen our esteemed topic post a few times. but had never put together the big picture until this thread. Good to know.
No, my opinion is that lefffield6 would have probably been better off raised by the people responsible for his conception or were related to him or by legal guardians secure enough in their own identity as caregivers not feel to need to masquerade as blood relatives.
Wouldn’t an adoptive parent be an “adopter”? You said that every time you meet an adopter, it gives you a look into a very sick mind. Therefore, every adoptive parent has a very sick mind.
ETA: Again we return to semantics. You don’t consider the man that leftfield6 considered to be his father a “parent.” Nonetheless, you called someone that poster loves very much a very sick individual.
Are any of this wide circle of people around adoptive parents? Or adopted? Do they know how you fee; about them?