What is the oldest idiotic arguments you’ve seen on TV/movies?
The earliest I remember was on All in the Family. Archie and Mike had a disagreement about putting on footwear, whether you should put on both socks, then both shoes, or put the sock and shoe on the left foot, then the sock and shoe of the right foot.
“Oh, waiter!”
“That is not a waiter, my dear; that is a butler.”
“Well, I can’t yell Oh, Butler, can I? Maybe somebody’s name is Butler!”
“You have a point. [beat] An idiotic one, but a point.”
Side note: Rob Reiner says that the shoes and socks argument on All in the Family was based on an actual argument between him and Carrol O’Connor about the subject.
IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT is pretty much made of this, because Clark Gable and Claudette Colbert flirt by bickering over trifles: how best to dunk a donut; the comparative merits of hitchhiking with a smile or a long face, or showing some leg instead of just sticking out a thumb; whether what he’s doing for her counts as a piggyback ride; and so on.
The first name on this subject: Mr. Preston Sturges
In a different sphere (and not exactly argument, but certainly an admonishment):
Felix: “Oscar, Oscar, Oscar.”
or (while wagging a finger) “Oscar…let it be on your head!”
Not an idiotic argument, but I loved this exchange between Charles Bronson and Jason Robards in Once Upon a Time in the West: Cheyenne: Harmonica, a town built around a railroad. [laughs] You could make a fortune. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. Hey, more than that. Thousands of thousands.
Vern: Do you think Mighty Mouse could beat up Superman?
Teddy: What are you, cracked?
Vern: Why not? I saw the other day he was carrying five elephants in one hand!
Teddy: Boy, you don’t know nothing! Mighty Mouse is a cartoon. Superman’s a real guy. There’s no way a cartoon could beat up a real guy.
Vern: Yeah, maybe you’re right. It’d be a good fight, though.
The oldest I’ve heard is from 1726 in Gulliver’s Travels as to whether to open an egg the from the big end or the little end. Of course, the answer’s obvious…
I remember the movie. Gulliver suggests to the Brobdignagian king that he break the egg in the middle. The king does so, and is disgusted with the result.
Another argument: Barney Fife trying to reform Otis Campbell, the town drunk.
Or the pompous Frank Barone arguing with his sons about what constitutes “macho.”
Or (The Lucy Show): Lucy vs. Mr. Mooney on the subject of decorum.
Or Fred and Wilma Flintstone arguing about practically anything.
Or the stuck - up snob Veronica vs. the laid-back Jughead.
[spoiler] VASQUEZ
All right, we can’t blow the fuck
out of them…why not roll some
canisters of CN-20 down there.
Nerve gas the whole nest?
HUDSON
Look, man, let's just bug out and
call it even, okay?
RIPLEY
(to Vasquez)
No good. How do we know it'll
effect their biochemistry? I say
we take off and nuke the entire
site from orbit. It's the only
way to be sure.
BURKE
Now hold on a second. I'm not
authorizing that action.
RIPLEY
Why not?
Burke senses the challenge in her tone and backpedals
flawlessly into conciliatory mode.
BURKE
Well, I mean...I know this is an
emotional moment, but let's not
make snap judgments. Let's move
cautiously. First, this physical
installation had a substantial
dollar value attached to it --
RIPLEY
They can bill me. I got a tab
running. What's second?
BURKE
This is clearly an important
species we're dealing with here.
We can't just arbitrarily
exterminate them --
RIPLEY
Bullshit!
VASQUEZ
Yeah, bullshit. Watch us.
HUDSON
Maybe you haven't been keeping up
on current events, but we just got
out asses kicked, pal!
Ripley faces Burke squarely and she's not pleased.
RIPLEY
Look, Burke. We had an agreement.
Burke moves in, lowering his voice. He takes her aside
from the others.
BURKE
I know, I know, but we're dealing
with changing scenarios here. This
thing is major, Ripley. I mean
really major. You gotta go with
its energy. Since you are the
representative of the company who
discovered this species your
percentage will naturally be
some serious, serious money.
Ripley stares at his like he's a particularly
disagreeable fungus.
RIPLEY
You son of a bitch.
BURKE
(hardening)
Don't make me pull rank, Ripley.
RIPLEY
What rank? I believe Corporal Hicks
has authority here.
BURKE
Corporal Hicks!?
RIPLEY
This operation is under military
jurisdiction and Hicks is next in
chain of command. Right?
HICKS
Looks that way.
Burke starts to lose it and it's not a pretty sight.
BURKE
Look, this is a multimillion
dollar operation. He can't make
that kind of decision. He's just
a grunt!
(glances at Hicks)
No offense.
HICKS
(coolly)
None taken.
(into mike)
Ferro, you copying?
FERRO
(voice over; static)
Standing by.
HICKS
Prep for dust-off. We're gonna
need an immediate evac.
(to Burke)
I think we'll take off and nuke
the site from orbit. It's the
only way to be sure.[/spoiler]
No, no. The time they were arguing about whether you eat your vegetables or meat first on a plate. Or all together. They were both on an enforced diet at the time. Dreaming of food. Mike wants it one way. Archie, showing his extreme mastery of any situation, argues for the sandwich. A perfect blend of meat, cheese, lettuce, dressing all in your mouth at the same time… excuse me, I gotta go make a sandwich. Which is what they did at that point.