Ok. I wonder why someone couldn’t have said that 250 posts ago.
And apparently it’s NEVER GOING AWAY!
Perhaps if I take drugs…
Only if you share…
Note: I am specifically not advocating any illegal activity. 
Argh!
Get it away from me!
Thanks for the reply–it makes complete sense now what happened, why, and why it’s staying that way.
Question for the TM:
Do you think using the greasemonkey fix to replace the current smilies will result in a slightly different conversation? That is, the rolleyes smiley clearly doesn’t convey the same thing as it used to. Will the new visual meaning slowly overtake the old one such that people will use it in new ways—and making the old smiley display will miss that intended meaning?
Only if you lick someone’s pie.
Pie tastes like donkey poop.
Well, my pie is safe from you.
How do you know?
Well I for one look forward to the many years to come with the new smileys and people complaining about them.
First learned it in 2002 when Weebl & Bob introduced “when come back, bring pie” and all things pie-related to the Internet (. Pie tastes of donkey poopis from the second episode (holy shit, it’s been twelve years!).
How do you know it is still true?
Now that’s proactive: change the smileys now to avoid the possibility of the smileys changing in the future!
The new smilies eyes make them look like they’re on the road to Shambala. (Either that or returning from a Grateful Dead concert.)
In their defense, the new smilies were installed with the update automatically.
What amuses me is that updates only happen once in a very blue moon, so I can’t imagine fixing the smilies again 2 or 3 years from now is really all that burdensome…
Especially since it takes < 1 minute per smiley to change them. So…less than 15 minutes to fix them, including logging in as an admin, worst case.
And it’s really only the rolleyes guy everyone is most unhappy about.
Naw, the embarrassed one and the tongue sticking out and the EEK are also annoying. I’ve installed BigT’s greasemonkey script; it’s the first time I’ve actually added a script to change how the boards appear.
They all really suck, but it’s rollyeyes that actually change the meaning. If we had reduce the effort required from 15 minutes to 5, that’d be one way…
This is factually incorrect. The same thing happened before and he fixed the smileys. He had to, because our old ones were vBulletin 2 smileys. Furthermore, he had to have added the extra smileys. He was not unwilling to add these things.
Furthermore, he has to already go past the plain vanilla installation, as he had to continue to use the current theme, which has been altered, specifically to display adds the way it does, as well as to have those “sharing” things. Fixing the smileys would have taken maybe a minute of his time. It’s a simple one line command. It’s something even complete technophobes do on their computers every day.
Trying to make it sound like fixing the smileys is amazingly complicated and a hassle does not wash. It’s far easier than many of the other changes we’ve tried, with pretty much no consequences. And it’s been done before. This isn’t the first upgrade I’ve been around for, yet this is the first time the smileys got messed up.
Ultimately, the smileys aren’t as big a deal to me as being given the runaround. I could understand if Jerry can’t get the bureaucracy to allow him time to fix such a minor mistake. But don’t pawn it off as a problem with vBulletin or a problem with our expectations. This was a security upgrade, not a feature upgrade. Copying back the custom smileys is a part of that upgrade. It’s not our fault for changing things. It’s his fault for not noticing the difference during testing.
Again, the smileys bother me less than being given implausible explanations.
Hicksville, Arkansas?
:dubious: