I doubt the particular manner of killing in the Noem incident is legal.
My “chicken guy” bought a catahoula puppy who once broke into his chicken enclosure and killed his birds. He didn’t shoot the young dog in the face with a shotgun. He didn’t shoot the year and a half dog at all. He recognized that he had made a mistake and trained that dog so well that now, a year after the killing chickens incident, the dog will protect the chickens with her life. She is a hunting dog with a mission, she isn’t letting any raccoons get to her birds.
Of course, things are different nowadays. How long ago was it that you were a farm kid?
Reading the brief news story, there are lots of things I still don’t know. How long and with what methods did she try to train the dog? Maybe she was justified in calling the dog untrainable.
She describes the dog as “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with.” It is within the realm of possibility that putting the dog down truly was necessary, and she chose a method in which death would be quick enough to be painless. (For the dog; the goat wasn’t so lucky.)
Even so, the dispassionate performance of a grim task is not the impression I come away with.
It ruined her hunting trip.
“It was less than worthless.”
“I hated that dog.”
I suspect Kristi Noem is as terrible a person as she sounds.
The available evidence seems to support your suspicion.
Yes, she claims the dog was dangerous to anyone it came in contact with, but the human she mentions getting harmed by the dog is her.
Smart dog.
Did the dog actually bite her, or did it just give her the sadz because it did not automatically do what she wanted with no training?
Well, we know that it was no longer than 14 months. And we also know that the dog was eager to please at least one of the humans in its life.
Anecdote: I was friends with a family that got a young dog to be friends with their old well-behaved dog. But they didn’t put much if any training into the exuberant “I want LOVE!” pup and kept it on a chain in back of their house, with very little human interaction.
One day I was visiting and went out back. The poor dog was thrilled to see me, wanted to jump up, etc. Now, I’ve never owned a dog but I understand them. I spent the next hour or two with the dog on a leash, quietly discouraging unwanted behavior, calmly praising when it did what I wanted. The poor damned thing inhaled every bit of attention and became much calmer itself.
By the end of our time the dog was sitting when requested and walking politely by my side. We walked around the house and up to where the family were sitting outside. As I approached they started telling me how untrainable the dog was – then stopped, dumbstruck (and I suspect somewhat embarrassed and annoyed) at how I’d succeeded when they’d failed.
Alas, they didn’t carry on from where I’d left off and the dog later escaped twice – the first time to the animal control officer, who had it briefly at home where his kids loved it, then shortly after its return got away again to a fate unknown.
Sure, some dogs are harder to train than others, but there’s no excuse for doing a crappy job, then blaming the dog for one’s own failure.
These weren’t inherently bad people, but they were used to a Good Dog and didn’t have the patience to train the youngster properly, poor thing.
You are absolutely right
During the minute people in my area were breeding/raising ostrich, a landscaper I knew bought three trios of ostriches (One way to farm ostrich is in trios. One male and two hens). His idea was to let his wife run the ostrich show.
They had a sixteen chicks hatch out their first try. They were in a temporary fenced set up which their dog easily got through, killing all the chicks. About $50,000 down the drain. Their response was to get out of the ostrich business. The dog wasn’t blamed, they’d never really considered that he might harm little ostriches (he was afraid of the adults).
Well, Mr. Noem certainly is.
I’m not sure if this belongs here or in the stupid thread. Probably both.
But but but… Killing animals for shits and giggles is now a core principle of Republican values, is it not?
I have the most useless hunting dog known to humanity. He is a German Short Haired Pointer crossed with Weimeraner- both are hunting dogs, specifically pointer and retreiver.
I don’t hunt so I have no need of his skills (well, he was the runt of the litter, so he is more than a little “behind the pack”, so to speak)
But stupid as he is, it was trivial to train him to be OK with cats, chickens (my mother raises them), horses, donkeys, cattle, sheep, children, He once spent about 10 minutes barking at a tortoise, and that only because I did not think it necessary to habituate him to tortoises. He is now though.
This whole thread diversion is about how bad pet owners should not own pets. And Noem is placing the blame on the dog and goat? Fucksakes Ms Noem, as others have said upthread: train the dog. Isolate (and castrate) the goat.
Problem solved.
ETA, even though he is the most stupid dog I have encountered, and yes, I have met Prince Charles cocker spaniels, he was able to learn the basics.
Smart dog; kill the little monsters before they get big.
Only if there was gravel on the field.
I don’t usually advocate for violence, but this guy really needs some sort of unusual punishment. He may not learn from it, but I’ll be happier. I hope they drive him into the ground.
In Soviet Russia, they make the dog pay for the bullet.
“ruthlessly taking advantage of another person’s special weakness.”
“Special weakness” is an odd phrase to refer to (presumably) mental issues/illness.