Although most here probably consider her mentally ill, not evil.
Based on what?
The investigation continues to try and determine what led to the shooting, something Lavely said might not lead to an answer.
“As a family, we unfortunately knew nothing about her mental health. We always saw her as a loving mother, which makes this so shocking for us,” the statement said. “This pain is something we wish no one would ever have to go through.”
There’s not enough information to draw a conclusion either way.
What does one have to do with the other? It’s perfectly possible to suffer from severe mental illness and commit willful acts of evil.
Hypothetically, if a woman suffering from severe depression exacerbated by a difficult divorce kills her children to keep their father from having them, that is evil.
Absolutely true.
Disagree. If you commit an act like this because you truly don’t see a way out, is it evil? I realize this may be a hijack or change of topic, though.
Yes, it is.
Was the most evil thing John Wick ever did in the Wick movies killing someone in a library with a book, getting blood on it and then re-shelving the book??!?
“Willful” is the key point. If you are severely mentally ill, not all acts you commit are willful, if you are driven to do some of them by mental illness. A person may be a danger to society, and society takes whatever steps are needed to contain that danger, not to punish that person but to protect everyone else. I would not call such a person willfully evil. And since the thread is about “Evil MFers” not evil acts, it makes sense to note the cases where those two things diverge.
A lot of ifs there. Not all mental illnesses cause a person to lose control or reason.
That’s why I said earlier that we don’t have nearly enough info to make a determination in this story, and we may never know enough to do so.
ETA: To add my personal experience, I experienced depression severe enough to attempt suicide. I think that counts as “severe”. I knew exactly what I was doing, I was in full control of my actions, I had just made a decision that I (wrongly) thought was the most effective way to end the pain and hopelessness.
My attempt was completely willful, and yet it was also the result of mental illness I struggled with (triggered by an acutely terrible situation I was in at the time).
So it will vary from situation to situation.
Regarding the brave woman who was so abused by her husband and 70 other men, the telegraph has a headline that reads:
“Wife takes public revenge on men who raped her every night on husband’s order.”
I’m not going to link to it, but I just want to say that whoever actually wrote that headline is a disgusting piece of shit for a human being. They should definitely go fuck themselves.
What’s wrong with that? I see no problem with taking revenge in a case like this.
Seeking justice is not taking revenge. One of those men was her neighbor and she interacted with him regularly. This makes me ill.
Did she rape them in public? That’s “takes public revenge” in my world.
Testifying against them in court is not “public revenge” unless you’re a woman hating fuckwit.
I’m glad you were able to get through that situation and that you’re still with us.
Thank you! It was a long time ago.
Well, here’s an unambiguous evil MFer:
Chilling details at the CNN link. Summary: Father stalks and harasses his own daughter, finally strangles her and flees the country.
They need to find this asshole. Get him and grind him into the dirt. Attacking a baby! He has to have some kind of mental disorder.
I bet that guy would download music illegally.
This I would have sent to the general Stupid MoFos thread, just from the ridiculous scale, but the terroristic threat took it to another level and cut close since I know one of the threatened persons. Plus he wound up in my back yard in PR.
Fine citizen gets his civics lessons on participation kind of wrong.
Summary: Dude made 12,000+ harassing and/or threatening phone calls to offices of Congress including at least one threatening to kill the person answering by running him over or blowing him up. In one case over a 2-day period he called the same representative’s number 500 times (creating a phone DOS attack tying up lines and staff?). One year in Fed pen and three more on probation.
Well, it could have been a very bad baby.