Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

If I was on a jury, I’d be reluctant to acquit such a person. If the criminal is still outside your house trying to break in, I think you need to warn him before opening fire, because your life clearly isn’t in immediate danger. But even if the homeowner goes to jail, the idiot would still be dead.

Here in South Carolina, I doubt anyone would be even charged.

Something like that happened around here. Saw it on the morning news. A homeowner didn’t realize the front door wasn’t securely closed, a kid was trying to be TikTok famous by kicking the door but ended up inside the house right in front of the homeowner. Apparently the kid scrambled out to a waiting car. If the homeowner had been armed in that moment, that would have been a dead kid. Doorbell camera, too, so there’s clear video of the kid’s face.

I doubt the homeowner would have faced any charges if that happened. It’s one thing to hear a loud kick at your door and another entirely to be confronted with somebody who has just entered your home by kicking your door open.

One sure way to not get shot when kicking doors is to just scream “ICE” while doing so. After all, everyone knows that anyone who claims to be ICE actually is, so they would never shoot you. /s

In my state if a person actually forces their way into your home - including accidentally because they didn’t realize the door they were kicking wasn’t actually secured - they might have a valid “castle law” defense if they shoot them dead. Or otherwise dispatch them.

Not actually in your home? Very strong chance the “castle law” defense won’t hold up.

The “door kick challenge” is going to get someone killed. Possibly several someones. Combining factors like middle of the night, frightened home-owner, guns, young idiots, and possibly alcohol/drugs is a recipe for disaster.

I am not so sure that the walls of the house constitute a defense boundary. If an unknown person is making contact with the outside of your house, that is quite disturbing. I would expect there to be a sort of two-step halo around your house that constitutes a zone of potential criminal tresspass (the area where a prowler would be catting around, peeking in windows. Shooting someone, without warning, for casing your house like that is probably on the edge of acceptable defense, but it is a very serious invasion of your personal space.

Over unspecified personal matter, Virgina imbecile douses politician with gas and then sets him on fire. Evil adjacent, but also too bonkers, like using a captive bolt pistol or crossbow to off someone.

I love this source

This takes “liar liar pants on fire” too far.

My post is based on a couple of situations at a prior residence while living in this state after talking to both the local sheriff and a lawyer. Every incident is different, and you are correct that that sort of trespass is highly disturbing. However, we were advised that until someone actually breaks the house the matter is not entirely clear-cut, especially to any judges or juries than might be pondering weeks, months, or years later what you had to decide in a matter of minutes, if not seconds.

That does not eliminate all potential scenarios. For example, if someone is across the street and shooting into your home you would have the right to defend yourself. Likewise, if you were standing in your yard and someone attempted to harm you you would also have the right to defend yourself.

This only applies to where I live, which may or may not apply where you live.

And that, folks, is why we don’t play Theft and Shrubbery in America.

There are few things in life that give me more pleasure than Bob Mortimer on Would I Lie to You?

There are reports that her mother Kay Shemirani, a struck-off nurse (and a real piece of work) influenced her daughter to give up an 80% chance of survival with standard therapy.

Kay Shemirani’s two sons blame her for their sister’s death. They’re taking lots of abuse from cranks on social media.

Having just completed six months of chemotherapy no, it’s not fun. It’s fucking miserable quite a bit of the time. But it is endurable and with my latest scans showing no more cancer I’m glad I did it.

I don’t know about the UK, but I found that my medical team (and they are a team) were very concerned about making the process less unpleasant and doing what could be done to deal with side effects and discomfort. I was fortunate enough that I could even continue to work the first four months of treatment even if, eventually, the accumulating side effects eventually put me on short term disability.

It breaks my heart to this this woman died before she had to. Because of misinformation spread by people who do not know what they’re talking about.

There is a time to refuse conventional chemotherapy - when it holds little hope of a positive outcome, when it’s time to talk quality over quantity. Perhaps others I haven’t considered. But cancer treatment isn’t a buffet. You can’t say “oh, I’ll try this!” and then, if it doesn’t work, go back and try the usual order and expect the usual result. Time matters.

I totally mis-read ‘Uckfield’. I thought she was a virgin.

In the Beeb article,

Ms Shemirani blames doctors for her daughter’s death.

No, ma’am. Your daughter was being treated by, at best, quacks not doctors.

Only in Redneckistan would we come up with a perp named “Shotsie Michael Buck Hayes”. I’m gonna bet he was wearing crocs when he did it.

How else will we know which “Michael Buck Hayes” is being referred to?

I guess their village had used up its allotment of Billie Joe Jim Bobs, so they had to name their designated idiot Shotsie Michael Buck.

All really bad criminals must have middle names reported in the media. Or even extra middle names.

We wouldn’t want other people named Shotsie Hayes to be falsely maligned.

I mentioned in another thread that back in the pre-Facebook era, googling my [firstname lastname] came up with the prisoner record of some armed robbery convict in some other state. But nothing about me.

Would perhaps have dampened my dating success if I had been in that market then.