Ah yes of course we should all be well-versed in nan-botism without those pesky cites to underscore the blatantly obvious, considering how you yourself said it was so trivially
researched.
Thanks for posting this. I was planning on making some soon. 
Question - are we ok with the occasional skirmish in the thread?
Tripler - that was awesome.
When can we expect the first real Borg?
You claim citations to facts that “every educated adult should know” yet fail to show them. Show those facts, or at least the citations to what you’re reading, lest I drag you over the coals of your own ignorance. You have yet to illustrate a tangible reference. . . .
Not enough and too late.
Tripler
Eat your meatloaf.
Wait, SamuelA is trolling the troll omnibus thread? How very meta. (We need a recipe for metaloaf.)
Let’s all go down the quarry and order milk at the bar.
Your pal,
The Borg
Do you need me to cite the fundamentals of biochemistry or are you accepting my statement that “living cells are nanomachinery” as the well known fact that it is?
Part of the reason I don’t bother with references is that anyone who needs these references isn’t really knowledgeable enough to have a conversation with. Like Darren Garrison.
To be totally fair, I misjudged you and I’m sure you know your shit…at least within your lane…but if you’re just gonna keep harping on when I called you out before, well, guess we won’t be having any productive conversations.
No, he is I think 100 percent sincere and convinced, and is not posting just to get reaction or be provactive. True Belief and sincere tin foil.
Okay, who had December 2nd in the Church of the Singularity Cult Evangelist Meltdown Pool?
n/m
I again understand where you’re coming from…but voice and image recognition actually works. You can’t deny it’s existence. You can’t deny the existence of autonomous cars. You can’t deny the existence of neural networks as a replacement for human minds.
You live in an era where the Christian equivalent would be that Jesus is alive, but he needs to “level up” his healing powers to actually pull off the miracles in the Bible. But he’s managed to do a few minor things that were completely impossible before and it’s been published in a journal.
So your religious parallels fail because you can’t really compare something real to a cult.
I’ve got one for Asshole Casserole.
Fillet 1 ea. Octopus, D’Asswipe, Shagnasty.
Wash thoroughly
bake at 700 for 4 hours.
Scrape into trash.
Nah. SamuelA really deserves his own Pit thread.
Apparently, you deserve a nice warm cup of milk and a cookie. What did I ever do to you?
Posters I have a beef with :
Darren Garrison (for trolling my threads and ignorantly making negative comments)
Tripler (for just generally being a pretentious dick)
Posters I am neutral to : everyone else
Posters I am friendly with : LSLGuy, several others I can’t recall instantly
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To knock my halo aside, there is a very very large gulf between “biology exists” and “humans can learn to build the same scale of devices using that tech or some other unrelated tech”. The gulf between that second assertion and “humanity will do this within my lifetime” is vaster yet.
Do not mistake “proof” of the first premise for proof of the third.
Where you (SamuelA) seem to get in trouble is when you make what you think of as a limited assertion, but you leave all the limitations in your head out of your post.
The recent solar cells + methane storage thread is a decent example. Most people took you to be saying it was inevitable that this solution and only this solution would soon, like within your lifetime, be fully in place.
Later on, after some prodding, you said you really only meant that total insolation and total supply of desert, silicon, rare earths, etc. meant there were no showstoppers in the raw back-of-envelope “whiteboard engineering”. And given almost-free robotic plants and installers, there’d be no cost obstacles either; any inefficiencies in the engineering would simply be overwhelmed with nil-cost quantity. You further admitted that all non-technological obstacles are out of scope for your proposal.
Had you included all those disclaimers in your OP you’d have gotten a more focused reception. As it was you and most of the folks were talking past each other fast & faster, louder and louder almost from the git-go.
I recall being a precocious undergrad. And a precocious grad student. It was all so clear how these facts of the latest magical stuff I was studying will sweep away sloth and inertia and carry us to a new and brighter world.
40 years later I’ve learned that the universe of people is not only more slothful and wrong-headed than we know, but is more of that than we *can *know.
Tech is trivial, money is hard, and politics is impossible. Write that on your forehead in Sharpie. That proposal of yours addressed the trivially obvious 0.01% part of the total equation. The hard part is the rest of society. That you keep offering tech solutions to social problems is a clear sign that You Just Don’t Get It.
Yet. I have some hope for you in 40 years. 
Shame I probably won’t be here to see it.
Take it elsewhere people!!
I thought you had a revolution to lead in California, troll.
Thank you for your coherent and reasoned response. Your halo glows just a bit brighter. You are completely correct in your criticism of my methane/solar proposal : I agree completely with your assessment.
In general I also agree completely with your assessment about the general state of progress. People wouldn’t be starving or dying of thirst in the third world if somehow the tech that we have could be equitably shared with them in a way that doesn’t just empower dictators to double down and oppress even harder.
We talk about the hyperloop? The NYC subway system, a critical part of one of the wealthiest cities in the entire world, can’t even keep it’s trains moving on a decent schedule. Not because the tech is hard - it’s actually trivial, off the shelf stuff that better versions exist for everything the subway uses. (the subway authority could just buy new trains, new tracks, new signaling gear, new everything from Japan if they had the money - and the city obviously does have the money)
The reason, of course, is that corrupt government officials diverted the money needed to keep the very city that pays their salary moving to other places.
My boundless enthusiasm for machine learning and smarter machines, so smart that collectively they can self replicate, is because the gradient of money pushes enormously in that direction. It’s going to happen, and soon.
The *catch *for this problem isn’t that the money or tech is hard - the problem is the reason the gradient pushes for this tech, while it didn’t push for supersonic airliners or whatever you were excited about in grad school - is that this is a way for the wealthy, owner class to stop having to pay about half of humanity for their labor.
Yeah I don’t know what’s going to happen with that, that sounds kind of like a coming civil war because I don’t see how there is a peaceful solution to this. The owner class in recent times, instead of moving in a direction of sharing some of their wealth, instead has just managed to figure out a way to rob the Federal treasury.
Since this is a troll thread : who are moron cock-gobbling posters who declare that the uber-rich ‘earned’ all their money and thus giving them a tax break, forcing our government to borrow by the trillions, is not the same thing as just writing them a check from the federal treasury? I recall arguing with at least one idiot like that…was it Shodan?