You could…
Why the fuck would you want to?
Right; Chastity Bono was never a lesbian. Bradley Manning was never gay. I could go on. Ummm most of these transgenders are attracted to people with the same biological sex as they actually are. And the ones who might be attracted to the opposite biological sex? Most of them are prob experimenting, or like body builders who think they’re small, they just have mental issues.
All the more showing that the trans-movement is just some activists sad that the main fight is over (50 state marriage equality, stigmatizing of the “f word” etc.), and making a new fight. It also makes trans the new thing, thus helping the image of gays in the eyes of the hold out skeptics.
point is to demonstrate what actually is and is not scientifically observable, if we’re gonna change laws and allow biological men to compete against biological females in sports, etc.
Says you, a random dude who has shown extreme ignorance on the topic. It sounds like you have no idea what you’re talking about and are just making things up on the fly. Why would anyone take your word for it over the word of mental health professionals, or transgender people themselves?
Or maybe it’s because transgender people have been treated like shit (including sky-high victimization rates of rape, assault, and murder), and want to be treated better.
How would it harm you if transgender people were protected by the law, and could use the bathroom, and couldn’t be fired for being transgender? How can you be so cruel and lacking in compassion?
That has nothing to do with “which sex arouses who.”
Two decades ago, as in 1996?
Well, I can understand why this might seem plausible - internet porn was still in its infancy and Monica Lewinsky was just a little-known White House intern and sex was something that just wasn’t discussed in polite company, what with Washington still echoing with the lingering harrumphs of the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings.
We had other things to dwell on in those heady days, like whether Ross would stay with Julia or reconnect with Rachel, and stockpiling cans of tuna for the looming catastrophe known as Y2K.
This is an important pint. Does the OP actually believe that a gay man wants to be a woman?
Why would the triggers for someone’s arousal be relevant to categorizing them for sports purposes? Are they competing in the Sexlympics, or something?
they’re not, but claiming to be a female, but being a biological male, to compete in sports against females is unfair. Even with hormones, the biomale bones and muscles are indeed inherently denser and stronger.
So even tho on most issues (see my posts on abortion, LGB rights, environment, economics) I’m not conservative, because I dissent on one thing, I’m a conservative? I guess all conservatives who dissent with Trump on at least one thing are now liberals. Indeed, many of my posts do repudiate things from the left here, but thats because the issues I do agree with the left on, I don’t feel the need to argue or worry that the crazies have been awoken!
How come liberal/conservative isn’t malleable to you, but male/female, which indeed are set in stone by chromosomes and God, is?
That has nothing to do with “which sex arouses who.”
You have been shown repeatedly that neither sex nor gender are set in stone, not by chromosomes and not by a Sky Fairy. Clearly, you are unwilling to even consider the *possibility *that you might be mistaken.
Fair enough.
That does not change the underlying issue that not a single trans person threatens you or your way of life. Of course, you seem to be unwilling to consider this a possibility as well.
I’m sorry you’re upset and scared. Change sometimes sucks, and it’s hard to be asked to change how you think, particularly when you are certain you are Right. Especially when you are wrong.
I will accept transgenders if:
- They and the pro-trans people accept that trans people do not belong competing in the sport of their transitioned-to gender
- That hetero cis men can find trans people repulsive without being called a bigot, and can say so in public
- That trans people don’t start trying to pass themselves off as “cis,” or regular people and deceive them into a relationship. I never wanna go to a bar and find out that the girl I’m about to lay down game to isn’t a girl. That’s disgusting.
- That given their small proportion of the population, their representation in media reflect that. What’s next: Playboy putting one of them on, to show “solidarity with equality?” Ew, no, never.
I don’t care what it takes for you to “accept” anyone. And neither do trans people. Your disgust is not relevant.
(Nor is it coherent, to be frank.)
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I’m not sure that cis men can call cis women repulsive in public without being called bigoted, so good luck with that.
Given that transmen and women face the possibility of being beaten to death under such circumstances, they’re probably much more leery of that than you are.
Good news! They’re not printing nekkid pictures any more, so there’s nothing to worry about there, either!
You seem to have completely missed my point. You have characteristics that might make a stranger think you are a woman. That stranger might accidentally address you as a woman. The waitress might come up behind you and ask, “may I help you , ma’am?”
Does it bother you to be misgendered like that?
Judging from your response to me, I’d guess it does.
How would you feel if people misgendered you ALL THE TIME, every day? That’s how it feels to be a transperson stuck in the wrong-sex body. I don’t really get it, personally. I have a deep enough voice that I am misgendered over the phone fairly often, and it’s never bothered me. I rarely bother to correct the person. But I thought that might resonate with you.
Dude, calling anyone “repulsive” in public is incredibly rude, and will always be a violation of social norms and common decency. So I’d say you are out of luck on that one.
But I will agree with others – no one is ever going to force you to date someone you don’t want to date. Well, except maybe your mother. You never have to date a transwoman. Nor a gay man. Nor a person not of your race, nor a person of your race, nor a fat person, nor a short person, nor anyone else. It just doesn’t work that way. Unless you go around announcing to all and sundry that you don’t want to date type X because of Y, no one is going to call you a bigot for your dating preference.
You want the right for bigots not to be called bigots?
:dubious::smack:
How is
accepting transgenders? Are you accepting them as equals? People? Repulsive?
What the fuck, dude?
Funny you should mention that.
Researchers HAVE found differences in the brains of transgendered individuals, at least during autopsies. Most of the time, the brain of a transgendered individual usually coresponds to that of their chosen gender, rather than their birth gender.
Ever heard the phrase “Napoleon Complex”?
An anti-scientific, ignorant, hateful, somewhat insane, and actually quite bafflingly inconsistent and incoherent series of statements. You have no facts to back up any of your pronouncements about transgender physiology and psychology, I’ve provided scientific references hundreds of times on this message board, and it beggars belief that you haven’t seen them or are unable to use the “Search” function, so it’s pretty clear to me why you’re actually posting here.
What’s unclear to me is why your OP and your statements herein are actually considered a debate. It’s really just inflammatory hate speech directed towards people like me.