Does anyone really think there’s any chance that Haley didn’t follow Elan up to the roof?
Yeah, yeah, we didn’t see her. That’s what a maxed Hide skill is for.
I wonder if we get to see just how tough Tarquin is. My guess is he could easily take Elan and Haley together.
However he strikes me as the type who is cocky enough in his estimations that he won’t need to hurt them too bad to win.
Tarquin = Lawful Evil
Nale = Chaotic Evil
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Pffft. Overrated.
Well, not according to this: 57 Inevitable Betrayal? Check. - Giant in the Playground Games
I’m seeing Nale as Lawful Evil and Tarquin as EXTREMELY Lawful Evil.
No, Tarquin = Lawful Evil with a high Wis and Int score, Nale= Lawful Evil with a lousy Wis and Int score.
No, Nale has a high Int and low Wis, and Elan has a high Wis and a low Int.
It’s pretty much a given that somebody who’s Lawful Evil is going to be cruel anyway.
The only canonical evidence for Nale having a high Int is his own claims, which are not at all borne out by the actual evidence. Nor is Elan’s Wis all that great, either: Note his amazing ability to completely miss the obvious.
Oh no. Lawful Evil doesn’t mean automatic cruelty. It means that the character will have no problem being cruel, and that’s different from being cruel for cruelty’s sake. Tarquin loves his son (or at least, until it turns out that his son can’t embrace any sort of Evil), and he showers his son with attention and love and kindness. Evil people can be very loving and kind. However, if cruelty will get the desired results (setting people on fire as both a light show AND as an example to other prisoners), then they don’t give the cruelty any thought. Goodly people, on the other hand, will consider other people’s feelings (they might put prisoners to death, but they generally won’t torture them to death).
I was a bit confused about Tarquin’s insistence on marrying the women he boinks, but then I did a facepalm and said “LAWFUL evil, got it!” Tarquin won’t do anything that’s against the law…but he will try to manipulate the law to his favor, or change the law.
I think he still does. He’s certainly proud of Elan in this latest strip.
Just wondering…where was Elan hiding that sword?
In its scabbard, of course.
The duel is a pun fest
Gotta love the onomatopoeia.
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It’s a duel at son-set.
Is that how lawful characters work? I figured lawful, good or evil, characters have a strict personal moral code that can be at odds with the law of the land. A paladin wouldn’t accept slavery even if it were legal in the land he is currently in.
Or the one before that when Elan mistakenly corrects “premature” to “immature” and the sound effect is “Whoosh!”
And I wonder:
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If Elan was sweating over the effort of fighting or trying to beat his dad’s wordplay.
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If Elan’s levels of Dashing Swordsman will help him.
Interesting how the rules they were fighting under make questioning entymology a viable tactic.
In the games I’ve played in, LG paladins will accept slavery, assuming that the slavery system is set up to be reasonably “fair”, that is, convicts, captured enemies, and debtors can become slaves, but children can’t be born into slavery. Also, slaves usually have some basic rights. Something like the slavery system in the Old South (US) wouldn’t be seen as fair, but that system was pretty extreme. A paladin wouldn’t try to help slaves who were lawfully slaves escape, but might try to get the laws changed.
Remember, up until about a century and a half ago, many people felt that slavery was a necessary part of society. Slavery still exists today in some areas.
Many gamers try to force today’s ideas about what’s right and wrong into the fantasy setting of the games. I’ve played in settings that were quite sexist, and I’m a feminist. The DM might have reasons for having the setting being pro-slavery, or sexist, or racist. Most fantasy worlds and games are EXTREMELY racist, but not in a real life sort of way…that is, dark elves and orcs and goblins are always evil, while other races are good or neutral. This is part of the reason that R. A. Salvatore’s books about the drow ranger were so popular…drow are Evil, and here’s a sympathetic main character fighting to be Good (and also fighting against the extreme misandry of the drow society).
On the one hand, as a gamer, it’s a hell of a lot easier for me to play in a world where orcs are Evil. If my character is Good, then if s/he sees an orc, the first thing that runs through his/her mind is “Target practice! And Glory (XP)!” Now, I will choose to attack or not based on my perceived odds, but I don’t have to worry about how my character is going to interact with those orcs. S/he will always be a foe of orcs. If orcs can be neutral or evil, though, a Good character is usually obliged to find out which alignment any particular orc is, before starting a fight. And a Lawful character usually considers ambushes/sneak attacks to be Unlawful, while a Chaotic character just regards such approaches as evening the odds or good tactics.
Lawful characters generally don’t have “personal moral codes”, they know what is Lawful, and that’s what they’ll do. Chaotic characters might think that something is Lawful But Wrong. For instance, Haley is doing her best to free slaves and prisoners, even though they were lawfully incarcerated or enslaved. But then, thieves are very, very rarely Lawful.