Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

In strip 1000 Roy asks Wrecan if the death of a cleric nullifies that cleric’s deity’s vote. Wrecan responds “I suppose”.

I suppose that “I suppose” could be ambiguous and Wrecan is wrong. But certainly Roy’s purpose in killing Durkon is to nullify Hel’s vote.

Freed but still Evil and presumably inhabited by Hel mojo, so not much difference there.

Or maybe not, now that I think about it - I don’t recall whether that was Jossed in the comic but how come Hel got to claim Durkula, when he was vamp’d by a disciple of Nergal ? Godly jurisdiction over dorfs/people from the Northern Lands or something like that ?

I am first to post the new strip this time!!!
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Looks like there’s something to this green effect after all.

Sorry, no scooby snacks. :frowning:

yh he’s healed in normal colour now. Incredibly powerful effect, would love to know the limitations

Just my WAG, but perhaps the new effects have nothing to do with any intrinsic powers of the sword, but are in fact caused by some unknown player trying to influence events?

Am I the only one to think “Jesus, Roy, don’t stop now!”?

Nope.

Oooh, I hadn’t noticed Roy had been fully healed by his flipping the fuck out, too. That sword is a pretty handy little toy !

Reflection is a free action.

Nope from me as well. Hoping it is just a pause before Finish Him!

No. Roy asks if, were a deity no longer has a cleric present by the tie-breaker would their vote still stand and Wrecan says no. Destroying Durkon will nullify Hel’s vote and break the tie in favor of saving the world.

Durkon probably did not kill the demigod priests because they are covered by the protections of the Godsmoot. Even if the other clerics weren’t immediately aware to stop it, the respective deities would still protest and probably nullify Hel’s vote for breaking the rules. Durkon was only able to kill the Stone priests because they are nontheistic and so have no deity to protest on their behalf (nor are they actual representatives at the Godsmoot). If Durkon was to vamp/thrall any of them, they would be clerics of Hel and not get an extra vote.

Just out of left field, if Durkon gets destroyed and Resurrected, I wonder if he’ll still retain knowledge of the Protection from Daylight spell he researched as a vampire.

Divine magic isn’t like arcane magic. Anybody can learn an arcane spell if they see a spellbook and have time to copy the spell. Divine magic is still granted by a deity - in this case, Hel. So I’d wager that Durkon would be unable to cast it, since he’s not actually the one who researched it; the Durkula demon is.

True, but there was a whole comic about how deities allow clerics that do not worship them to cast spells from their domain. Just like Durkon can cast Firestorm despite Fire being from Loki’s domain while he was a cleric of Thor. So presumably he’d still be able to cast Protection from Daylight due to the divine rules around spell-granting. Why he would want to is another matter.

First panel, upper right corner. Dude in the animal skull hat has the same red eyes (and overbite) as Durkon. Vampire thrall?

That’s Fenrir’s priest (god of monsters). In the comic where everyone gives their votes, he also has animal ears and a tail. No idea what race he’s supposed to be.

While divine spells are granted by their respective deities, divine magic is still treated much the same as arcane magic in Stickworld. We had this discussion when Durkon was first killed by Malack. If the spells were purely divine favors, how could Durkon cast a spell with a secret backdoor inserted by Malack? “Dear Thor, please grant me protection from negative energy unless someone says ‘Xxzyzy’ in which case never mind and let them kill me. Amen.”

To go in the other direction, can Vampire Durkon currently cast Mass Death Ward?

Sorry, pup. Not even close. See post #1965

I’m still going to bet the tie breaker is Banjo.

Right, but he didn’t have the red eyes in that earlier strip.

Everyone has yellow eyes because they’re casting their proxies. Afterward, everyone’s eyes seem to have reverted and his eyes just happen to be red. He’s also shown here.

I think he’s just a monster of some type. Plus Fenrir was voting “Yes” anyway.