Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

Nemo is riffing that V’s gender/alignment neutrality preferences extend to meal types.

Or referencing Seinfeld.

Do you think the hidden Mickey was deliberate?

It’s not quite breakfast, it’s not quite lunch, but it comes with a slice of cantaloupe at the end; you don’t get completely what you would at breakfast, but you get a good meal.

I applaud anyone who gets an automatic twitch at any three circles appearing together, but I think those were just donuts. If they were meant to invoke a hidden Mickey, they would have been positioned slightly differently.

New One

So what’s Durkula up to? And is it because Durkon is leading him into a trap?

I would like to think so but since they haven’t gotten to his homeland, I don’t think it can happen yet.

I think you’re right, but we never can tell with Rich. He’s good at subverting conventions and expectations. Durkon has died, so even if he’s resurrected, and subsequently returns to his homeland, it would be posthumously (the Oracle would be all over a technicality like that).

Still, the look on Durkula’s face suggests that he has something devious planned. I don’t think this is Durkon manipulating Durkula, it would have to be a whopper of a bluff to get Durkula to walk into a temple for a resurrection and think it was his idea. Probably out of reach for anyone other than Haley while she was under the effects of that super bluff potion.

Ah I wonder: if Durkula gets Resurrected, will it be that it’s Durkula who comes back and Durkon who will get ejected?

Evil Durkon is clearly up to something, but I’ll be damned if I know what it is. Volunteering to be resurrected is clearly useful for building trust, but I have no idea how he plans to subvert such an attempt.

I’m trying to think what use Durkoff has for a temple. Will he surreptitiously vampirize the gnome cleric, so he has an evil (cleric) follower to do his bidding?

I’m wonder if, now that they’re in the Northern lands, and Roy not being much on religious stuff, he will be sneaking Roy into a Temple of Hel. Where he is the high priest. And will have a lot of other clerics of the same, ah, inclination.

What kind of mind-raping magic do clerics have, again?

Could just be that he knows no clerics of high enough level will be on hand.

We were told that if we didn’t like the Durkon/Vamp dynamic we were in for a long 2015 so obviously Durkon’s not getting resurrected any time soon. There’s no real way to trick the party into thinking the ashen, blood-needing, sunlight-avoiding Durkon was ‘cured’ if he wasn’t so it’s nothing as simple as dominating a cleric and having him lie about it. I’ve no idea where this is going.

Durkon told Malack that Hel doesn’t have priests (or any organized worship). So she wouldn’t likely have a temple.

When Durkon got vampirized, I made the joke that he was now High Priest by default since he’s Hel’s only priest.

And I just realized: Durkoff has Malack’s staff. He’s pictured with it in the strip. That staff contains a spell to raise someone that Durkoff sucked dry into a full-on vampire immediately. So Durkoff can make followers in 5 minutes, 10 tops. So if Hel needs some vampire clerics of her stripe, Durkoff can drop by a temple, corner the priest(s) and make his own Hel clerics, who will now do his work and can make even more Hel clerics.

I don’t think thralls can make their own vampires and I doubt Durkon would be letting a bunch of one day old free-willed vampires loose… Even Durkon is at a bit of a disadvantage right now due to his unorthodox creation. He has Malack’s staff but no coffin. Speaking of, Durkon is also still bound to the staff for Protection From Daylight. Would he want to risk depleting the staff further by raising new vampires?

I guess the question really revolves around what Hel’s game is. She must know about the last Gate and the Snarl (well, obviously she’d know about the Snarl) and so any plans she might have had would have to take a back seat to ensuring that she and the rest of the pantheons aren’t wiped from existence. That means control of the Gate.

I’d guess this is the likeliest answer. Durkula is getting brownie points by volunteering for a mission he knows he won’t be able to complete. As a bonus, it’ll get him off alone away from the rest of the group and give him an opportunity to carry out some real mission for Hel.

Nah, Resurrection involves first killing the undead creature using the body (by destroying what’s left of the body - remember when Roy was a bone golem ?), then calling back the original soul from whichever afterlife it’s been chilling in. Undead have no souls, they’re just… I suppose “magical AIs” would be sorta correct ?

Anyway, the point is, they lie strictly outside of the whole life/death/rebirth cycle.

So I’m not sure what Durkula’s game is.

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What kind of mind-raping magic do clerics have, again?
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Not much, actually - it’s more of a wizard/sorcerer thing. Though some cleric domains have some “do as I say” stuff, Nobility in particular. Cleric mind voodoo is more about “tell me the truth” or “stop right there !” than Mandchurian Candidate whammys.