Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

I’m sure there are people on the GitP Forums whinging about Haley’s parley with Crystal is going “too far” because flesh golems don’t have intelligence or something. But while it might not be D&D kosher, it was a clever, non-contrived way to resolve the plot line.

Really liked this one. Well done, Rich.

Looks like Haley read this strip.

:smack::smack::smack:

And I don’t even have the not-enough-coffee-yet excuse. Crap!

Thanks!

:smack:

Hmm. Think I spotted something.

In 831, the one after Redcloak gets all supervillainy on Tsukiko…

Redcloak has the phylactery and the fake phylactery. Well and good. Then he goes about casting the standard hiding spells on the fake one to fool Xykon.

“Greater Obscure Object”
“Hardening”
“Superior Resistance”
“Greater-”

Sure, that could just be showing time lapse. But I’ve learned that the Giant is a bit too tricky for that. What exact WAS going on there?

What was going on there was him casting a bunch of spells on the fake phylactery, to make it look like the real one. What’s the confusion?

What the last spell was, and if it does more than just make the fake more convincing.

Hey, I FINALLY GOT ONE RIGHT!!! :D:D:D:cool::cool::cool::):):slight_smile:

I mean, NEARLY right. I didn’t have the courage of my convictions to take my speculation that far, but the actual outcome looks like a best-case scenario of my thinking.

Well her creator is prominently in the room with Bozack, so the green fellow will probably survive this encounter. And Haley isn’t out of hot water quite yet.
ISTM that Frankencrystal needs a shot of morphine or some sort of painkiller. But I can’t find anything like that online (or at least I can’t find the RPG version). Notwithstanding magical healing, they must have surgery in D&D-land, right?

Why develop surgery when you can just pray the harm away ? Magic, like slavery, intrinsically stifles innovation :). Seriously though, I expect anaesthetic plants would be covered by either Knowledge(Nature) or Heal. There are also poisons that drop you unconscious or reduce Wisdom. Failing that, there’s always drinking contests with a dwarf.

As for the strip, I must admit I have a lot of respect for Haley managing to finagle her way into “turning” Crystal while still laying burn after burn after burn on her. Now that’s some Diplomacy right there.

And this flesh golem was specially created that way, on Bozzok’s orders.

Ah, right. I forgot about that part. So the whinging must have happened back when that strip came out, instead :wink:

I would not expect human pain killers to work on a golem. Why would a golem have the chemical pathways that morphine or novocaine act on? I don’t think they even benefit from potions of healing, do they?

Right. Golems aren’t living creatures, even the ones that are technically made out of meat. Healing spells don’t work on them. Neither do poisons. Or, for that matter, disease, death effects, necromantic effects, paralysis, sleep, stunning, mind affecting effects, ability drain, ability damage, fatigue, exhaustion, energy drain, non-lethal damage, critical hits, or anything that requires a Fortitude save.

And that’s just for being a construct. Golems specifically get even more immunities.

Not to blow my own trumpet or anything, but in the previous strip when Crystal said “Pain is all I feel!” I did wonder if Haley would succeed in getting the blame for that assigned where it belonged. That said, anticipating what the Giant will do every once in a long while is not a great batting average. :slight_smile:

Poor Crystal. True she was a sadistic assassin-for-hire with a sizable body count who probably didn’t give a toss for her victims or their families. There’s that. But surely there has to be some way to fan wank her some relief. She is a homebrewed construct after all. Conventional golems lack intelligence altogether.

Can you raise dead or resurrect a flesh golem?

True Resurrection would do the trick.

That’s the one that doesn’t need the body, right? I thought word of god ruled out true resurrection in OOTS.

We’ve seen it done for a bone golem, remember.

Technically, after the flesh golem is destroyed, what’s left is the body of the person used to make it. You’re not resurrecting the golem (after all, it was never alive in the first place), you’re resurrecting its raw materials.