Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread

NM, point already made

What memory wipe?

We told you about the memory wipe the last time this happened ohhhhhh…

Traditional considerations

I don’t understand what the significance is of pushing Nale into the abyss, or how it’s going to help the baddies

It’s not “the abyss”, it’s the Abyss, the demon home planes. Why they’re shoving a Lawful Evil character into the Chaotic Evil nexus, we don’t know yet.

Maybe the Abyss has fewer rules when it comes to promoting a soul into an outsider.

Some sort of time dilation effect? Maybe there’s a level of the Abyss where time passes much faster, allowing Elan to undergo millennia of torture and demon ascension, while only hours pass on the Material Plane.

I really hope not, for Elan’s sake!

But yeah, the Abyss is the sort of place where you shove someone into a bubbling pool and a whole later a dretch crawls out.

Sorry - got that backwards.

If you’re asking about the pushing, I think it’s a literal interpretation of the phrase “fall into the abyss”. So, you have to enter the Abyss by falling. You cant fly down, or climb down, or be lowered. You have to fall.

If you’re asking why he’s going there at all, then I’m sure we’ll find out next strip.

They did say the Elon would become a lesser devil (LE) as opposed to demon (CE), though the latter live in the abyss. I googled lesser devil and found this on reddit:

Lesser Devils 2. Imp: Spies, willing servants of mortals. 3. Spined Devil: Messengers and spies for greater devils and archdevils, flying artillery. 4. Bearded Devil: Violent shock troops. 5. Barbed Devil: Guards who are very alert. 6. Chain Devil: Sadistic jailers and torturers. 7. Bone Devil: Cruel taskmaster of devils beneath them.

I’m guessing door number 4 in appearance, more like number 7 in personality.

That’s really gonna make Teslas unpopular

Let’s get these out of the way: Elin, Elyn, Elæn, Nail, Neal, Nela

They said “Least Devil” which refers to a nupperibo or a spined devil.

Heh heh. Anel.

I see spined devils have wings. Maybe that could work with sufficient magical tools. Or maybe they will cutoff Nale’s spines.

Except the Director explicitly says that it’s not the falling. Apparently, it really is important for the tradition that the victim be pushed.

1323 - Maybe Some Crabs

So, Nate (or his soul, anyway) was first shown what he was being allowed to opt out of, and now he’s being shown something different that he just might have traded himself into.