Well that
really changes what we thought we knew.
You could probably say that for about half the strips in this comic.
Minrah is rapidly catching up to Belkar as my favorite character.
(I liked Belkar when I first read the strip; subsequent rereadings lowered his standing in my estimation; but the arc he’s been on since getting the Mark of Justice lifted has been fantastic, and he’s back at the top.)
Somebody should paste 1232 into this thread:
Also, Durkon really rocks. It takes something to stand up to your God and morally shame him.
I’ve always liked Durkon, but he was never really my absolute favorite character. Aside from during the Vampire arc, which really was his time to shine.
Yes, that was his highlight, of course. But i think he was pretty kickass in today’s strip.
1233 - Concerning Thoughts
The natural result of the prior strip. And I think we have another strip or two to flesh this out.
Not sure what this is leading to. If they try to negotiate with Redcloak again, it’s hard to see what they can offer him.
They can’t get the Gods to change the system, because that only happens with a reset.
They can’t promise the humans/dwarves/elves will treat goblins better, because they aren’t the official representatives of those nations, and can’t possibly deliver on such a promise even if Redcloak believed it. Which he won’t.
While there may be a valid point about the start the goblins got, etc it’s worth remembering that Redcloak is still evil. He’s still a guy who laughs along with Xykon when people are being tortured or indiscriminately maimed for fun. Turning to violence to right the system may be valid, but Redcloak takes actual pleasure in hurting people. He’s not just a guy with a different viewpoint or life experiences, he’s legitimately evil.
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I don’t follow Durkon’s logic there:
Last strip, Thor explained that goblins aren’t created to be victims, everyone has enemies, etc. Redcloak’s motivation is based on a wrong premise.
How does Durkon go from that to saying Redcloak is right?
I thought Thor explained they the gods created an ecosystem, so they needed to create enemies. And that some of those enemies are people who started in a lousy position is just because Fenris thought it would be amusing.
So really, Redcloak is right.
“But it’s na less wrong fer bein’ from neglect than malice”
That’s Durkon’s take on it. Redcloak is right that in that the goblins got the short end of the stick.
What they can offer him is that the other gods respect his god, and that his god can negotiate from a position of power with the other gods to improve the lot of the goblinoids. I mean, that’s where this is heading, right, that they need the additional quiddity that the Dark One has.
Respect is nice and all, but I suspect Redcloak is interested in something more concrete.
And Redcloak notion of “position of power” would be the Dark One controlling the Snarl’s exit location.
But let’s say the gods wanted to agree to whatever demands. What can they do for the goblins, if they can’t change anything while the current world’s in progress?
Fenris was convinced that this time, “fast breeding, short lived” low power monsters were totally going to dominate despite numerous failures. When they predictably did not, he’d get bored and stop paying attention to them. But I don’t think he intentionally set them up to fail, he just isn’t very good at picking a strong initial stat block for his people.
4 quatloos says they get offered the world inside the Snarl that Blackwing saw.
That’s been my suspicion for a while but it all depends on the true nature of the Snarl. I suspect that, like various other elements of that story, we still don’t know the full story there.
That may be true, but as Elan’s angel said all the way back in Strip 68: