Order of the Stick General Discussion Thread (Open Spoilers and Speculation)

[Wolverine]

@E-Sabbath

Jenny’s stats:

STR 8
DEX 6
CON 7
INT 5
WIS 3
CHA 09.

Good one. It took me a minute to catch on. Unfortunately it’s going to be in my head all day now. Thanks.

[Little_Nemo]

Okay, today’s strip, and V’s facial expressions, finally make me think there’s hope for him not-being-evil-in-the-long-run. I’m glad for that. Heel-turns never really do it for me in comics. I’m sure there’ll be complications, but I’m equally sure they will be handled well.

Burlew has made the point before that many evil characters don’t think of themselves as evil (characters like Xykon and Nale are exceptions). They usually think of themselves as people who happen to be doing something evil but for a good reason. Redcloak would be a prime example of this. And Vaarsuvious could conceivably end up becoming like this.

[appleciders]

@Wolverine

Good one. It took me a minute to catch on. Unfortunately it’s going to be in my head all day now. Thanks.

I posted to ask for help, but then I got it. Well played. I had been extraordinarily confused as to why she’d be only a 9- Jenny was a 13 or 14, at least.

Hint:

Think Tommy Tutone.

[Der_Trihs]

@E-Sabbath

Jenny’s stats:

STR 8
DEX 6
CON 7
INT 5
WIS 3
CHA 09.

Well, I don’t get it.

I think that STR 8 means “straight” and CHA 9 means “canine”; DEX 6 maybe means Deck 6 - but that’s it.

[Alessan]

Psst.

[shantih]

@E-Sabbath

Jenny’s stats:

STR 8
DEX 6
CON 7
INT 5
WIS 3
CHA 09.

::golf clap::

[Der_Trihs]

@Alessan

Psst.

Thanks.

[Little_Nemo]

That idea wouldn’t have worked for Belkar anyway. He’s learned not to read anything he sees on a wall.

[Lightray]

@E-Sabbath

Jenny’s stats:

STR 8
DEX 6
CON 7
INT 5
WIS 3
CHA 09.

Tsk. Some times, dice roll is not the option to choose, despite what the CharOp boards tell you.

[Just_Some_Guy]

@Little_Nemo

Burlew has made the point before that many evil characters don’t think of themselves as evil (characters like Xykon and Nale are exceptions). They usually think of themselves as people who happen to be doing something evil but for a good reason. Redcloak would be a prime example of this. And Vaarsuvious could conceivably end up becoming like this.

That’s true in any sane narrative universe but V is a player character in an RPG universe. She/he can just look at the spot on the sheet for alignment. I suppose it’ll depend on how much Burlew wants to run with that theme…

@Lightray

Tsk. Some times, dice roll is not the option to choose, despite what the CharOp boards tell you.

Yeah, with stats like that the only class you can take is Jester.

Yeah, I got it.

[Grumman]

@Just_Some_Guy

That’s true in any sane narrative universe but V is a player character in an RPG universe. She/he can just look at the spot on the sheet for alignment. I suppose it’ll depend on how much Burlew wants to run with that theme…

S/he doesn’t even need to “cheat” like that, even a level 1 Cleric or Paladin can cast Detect Evil. Hand him 10gp and ask him to cast the spell on you. If he collapses twitching, you know the answer is “yes”.

[Chronos]

But even then, you’d get characters arguing that they’re only technically evil, or that they’re evil but had no choice in the matter, or that what a paladin detects isn’t really evil, but just non-paladinness, or whatever. People (even elvish people) have an amazing capacity for self-delusion.

And Little Nemo? That was hilarious.

[Alessan]

@Just_Some_Guy

That’s true in any sane narrative universe but V is a player character in an RPG universe. She/he can just look at the spot on the sheet for alignment. I suppose it’ll depend on how much Burlew wants to run with that theme…

We know it doesn’t work that way in the Stickverse. Miko, after all, went to her grave (so to speak) believing that she was lawful good.

[Hal_Briston]

@E-Sabbath

INT 5
WIS 3

That would actually explain a lot.

[E-Sabbath]

Hal, that’s exactly what I was thinking. I mean, Belkar.

[Just_Some_Guy]

@Alessan

We know it doesn’t work that way in the Stickverse. Miko, after all, went to her grave (so to speak) believing that she was lawful good.

Two things there:

1. Miko was an NPC. See the “stupid railroad plot” strip; PC’s do not act as agents of the GM’s narrative.

2. Miko lost her paladin powers but that doesn’t mean an alignment shift. A single bad act performed in good faith doesn’t necessarily bump you all the way down the scale.

ETA: Does 3.5 still have XP penalties for shifting alignment? That would be hard for a PC to miss as well.

[Miller]

@E-Sabbath

Hal, that’s exactly what I was thinking. I mean, Belkar.

Well, he is a sexy shoeless god of war. Women love that sort of thing.

[Lightray]

@Grumman

S/he doesn’t even need to “cheat” like that, even a level 1 Cleric or Paladin can cast Detect Evil. Hand him 10gp and ask him to cast the spell on you. If he collapses twitching, you know the answer is “yes”.

Well, that is just exactly how Miko firmly established that Belkar was Evil. I’m sure there’s nothing V could do against such a foolproof scheme… if Belkar couldn’t foil Detect Evil, V has no hope of being clever enough.

[Strinka]

@Lightray

Well, that is just exactly how Miko firmly established that Belkar was Evil. I’m sure there’s nothing V could do against such a foolproof scheme… if Belkar couldn’t foil Detect Evil, V has no hope of being clever enough.

Miko never firmly established that Belkar was Evil. He always blocked her detection. While, that implies that he’s Evil, it is by no means firm.

[Captain_Carrot]

@Strinka

Miko never firmly established that Belkar was Evil. He always blocked her detection. While, that implies that he’s Evil, it is by no means firm.

Whoosh. Unless I’ve just been whooshed.