And if it were explicitly stated to be “illegal”, what then? SWAT team busting down your door?
You might as well post it.
The possibility of it being construed as illegal (and thusly against board rules) is what made me stop giving advice in this thread. So I guess the question is “can we give directions to things on SDMB that are in a legal gray area?”
Do you play any games on it? There are a bunch of poorly written ones that will give memory errors on some of the older hardware (because they’re hogs). I one worked with someone who had an iPhone 3GS and kept getting memory errors. I looked at the games she had running, did a quick google search, and said “That’s your issue. Bad game (one specific one widely reported to cause that issue), not bad phone. Stop bugging Apple to replace your phone, it won’t fix anything.”
Incident Identifier: 8CF1B7CF-0F96-4F77-9830-91773A42A823
CrashReporter Key: 51cee5fdc36be2cb4a70a5cdf061fa133f8410b8
Hardware Model: iPad2,1
OS Version: iPhone OS 6.0.1 (10A523)
Kernel Version: Darwin Kernel Version 13.0.0: Wed Oct 10 23:29:31 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2107.2.34~2/RELEASE_ARM_S5L8940X
Date: 2013-01-21 10:35:41 -0800
Time since snapshot: 749 ms
Free pages: 776
Active pages: 7646
Inactive pages: 3983
Throttled pages: 99543
Purgeable pages: 16
Wired pages: 16219
Largest process: backboardd
Processes
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accountsd <ac0fce15c1a2350d951efc498d521ac7> 471 471 [vm] (daemon) (idle)
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VI Mobile <96b510b5af2d3d69b62970410ec74295> 51556 51556 [vm] (frontmost) (resume)
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End
These are the two biggest memory users. I think backboardd is part of the OS though, so suspicion falls on VI Mobile - do you have the latest version of that? Does the crash only happen when it’s in the foreground?
Backboardd is the processing layer that allows for automatic app suspend/resume and other background processing functions. It does appear to be using quite a bit of memory. Do you have any other apps running in the background (e.g. Pandora, Google Maps, etc.?)
Have you tried rebooting the device and starting VI Mobile first, before any other apps? Does it still crash then?
VI Mobile is the app I am having trouble with. It was written for and in conjunction with my company’s product. It ran fine before the upgrade. There are no other apps running AT ALL. I have tried every possible combination of resetting the ipad, erasing OS and reinstalling, rebooting, opening and closing apps, etc. The problem seems quite simple…the OS6 is using too much memory - compared to the same app, same camera system and same iPad - running 5.1.1
The original question was: How to get back to 5.1.1…everything else will remain the same. Is there any way - barring a seemingly impossible revert - to eliminate some of the bloatware in OS6? Can the system be picked apart?
I have about 15 Apple machines in my immediate environ and I must say this is pissing me off.
It’s not a generic incompatibility. I have two first-generation iPads at my store running iOS 6 with no problems whatsoever. Unfortunately, I don’t know how to narrow down what the problem actually is.
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It’s not a generic incompatibility. I have two first-generation iPads at my store running iOS 6 with no problems whatsoever. Unfortunately, I don’t know how to narrow down what the problem actually is.
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An Ipad1 on ANY OS will not now/never did support the FullRes streaming image we are working with on this app; they are exempt from the conversation.
Unfortunately the OS6 upgrade has bombed my Ipad2 back into iPad1 territory as far as this application is concerned. OS 5.1.1 was fine. Problema.
Ah. I am unfamiliar with that particular app. In that case, I have nothing to offer on the question.
We’re real clear on the fact that we’re driving the damn things as hard as they’ll go…the software was written that way. Problem is they changed the playing field on us (and not just us - Google OS6 complaints - a bunch of stuff got boogered up, not just Maps and us) and their solution is “go buy a newer machine, you may NOT have the old OS back.” Classy!
My iPad 1 is pretty much worthless because I didn’t realize I wasn’t supposed to update. I received a new iPad for my birthday last year and have no intentions of ever updating. It’s criminal (well, I wish it were) that the lifespan of an iPad is so short. I wish Apple would provide a way of reverting to the original version of the operating system that came with it.
i haven’t tried jailbreaking, so i don’t know. however, from what i understand, jailbreaking is completely reversible. such that you can bring the machine to Apple and they won’t be able to tell. would jailbreaking the ipad, installing the old OS, then undoing the jailbreak, leave it back with the older OS?
Yes, but…
We’re above my paygrade here, but I’m reliably informed that UNLESS YOU KNEW BEFOREHAND and saved the SHSH blobs BEFORE YOU UPGRADED, jailbreaking will not necessarily allow you to successfully downgrade.
That said, Google “RedSnow” and hold your breath.
“Pretty much worthless”? As I said above, I don’t know the app that the OP was talking about, but there isn’t a single thing I do on my “iPad 3” that I can’t do on my first-gen iPads. There are some apps that won’t run on the old ones, but that certainly doesn’t qualify them as “pretty much worthless.”
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“Pretty much worthless”? As I said above, I don’t know the app that the OP was talking about, but there isn’t a single thing I do on my “iPad 3” that I can’t do on my first-gen iPads. There are some apps that won’t run on the old ones, but that certainly doesn’t qualify them as “pretty much worthless.”
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It seems like I can’t do much of anything on it, but you’re probably right that its not worthless. It started when I noticed that the Washington Post kept closing Safari when I would try to read it. It would start to load an article then just shut down. Then Facebook would shut Safari down. It’s not really any of the aps for me unless they have a lot of pictures; it’s sites online that just shut Safari down.
I have about five or six relatives and friends with the first generation and they have the same problem with Safari and some aps just closing down, too.
So although its not worthless, I never know what sites it won’t load, and that’s frustrating.
Pai325, have you tried one of the other browsers out there? I use Opera on my first-gen iPad.
It’s quite irrelevant to this thread, as the ipad 1 does not run iOS 6.
And that, my friends, is why a lot of us don’t like the walled garden. There’s no excuse for not allowing downgrades except to try to make you buy more hardware. It’s not as if people are pirating iOS or anything. There’s no need for the installation to need to be signed.
That’s the real reason for the walled garden, not protecting you.