It looks like I misunderstood the relationship between someone like me, or people I support, “allowing fascism to rise in your country” and the Ottawa situation. As a free speech supporter, I am perhaps literally guilty of allowing fascism to arise, but I don’t think American freedom of speech and association has anything to do with how Ottawa is policed.
It’s a shame that some Americans are sending money to your alleged criminals. I don’t see a perfect way to stop that (although funding criminals in foreign democracies should be illegal). Maybe my uncertainty concerning regulation of GoFundMe has some family similarity with the lack of a perfect way to police Ottawa.
disconnect the tractor and tow it. Add pressure to the trailer to unlock the wheels and drive it away. if the wheels are damaged then they’re jacked up on a dolly for towing just like a car.
This isn’t a logistics problem, It’s a PM hiding in the basement problem.
But he can’t act until called on by the Premier, other wise it’s overstepping, I believe. He keeps repeating he’s waiting to hear from Dougie. I mean he can probably act, but not until he’s at least given the Premier ample opportunity to do something.
Dougie’s between a rock and a hard place. If he doesn’t act, he’ll lose tons of votes from the cities being occupied. If he calls out the conservative bros, his national aspirations will likely dissolve.
I’m frankly amazed the locals would put up with it. An hour of honking in my neighborhood would elicit an angry crowd of people carrying Charlie Brown sacks of candy.
This just shows how ignorant you are of the issue. The organizers of the Fascist Convoy are alt-right white nationalists. You know, Nazis. Are all of the people on the convoy Nazis? No, of course not. They’ve been suckered. They’re being used. Or at least, they were. At this point, they should know with whom they are standing. And when you stand with fascists that makes you either a fascist or a collaborator. Kind of like Republican voters at this point. You know what they stand for. They are sprinting towards fascism. So if somebody supports the Republicans, they might not be fascists inherently, but they’re willing to collaborate, and that makes them just as bad.
You what the difference is between us. I love my country, whereas you love the Republican party. I love that my country is a democracy with a robust history of being free and a desire by most Canadians to remain a free, liberal democracy. You seemingly don’t care what the Republicans do to America so long as it makes the libtards cry. You seem to be ok with them sacrificing democracy on the altar of winning political power. I am not ok with that being the case in Canada.
I love my country so much that I stood up to fight for my country. Maybe it is naive but I like to think that the Canadian Forces helps to preserve freedom in Canada and promote it on the international stage. I care that a bunch of white nationalists are so empowered that they are occupying my nation’s capital. This is not a small issue for me. This is a big deal because if we let this vile ideology take hold then I fear for the future of democracy in Canada.
So yes, when somebody is a Nazi, I’m going to call them out for what they are because I’ll be damned if I allow what has happened in the USA to happen to the country I love.
Well, this isn’t about any perceived differences between us. Though to be clear how anyone can support the sanctimonious and utterly shameless hypocrisy of the modern left always leaves me a little baffled.
From the NY Times we have the following article, sorry it’s pay-walled but there are ways to read it regardless. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/opinion/ottawa-trucker-protests.html
To summarize, they non-hypocritically support the right of the truckers to protest in a manner that is disruptive.
Personally, I don’t support shutting down public infrastructure and unlike the left my view on that subject doesn’t depend on it being my pet cause of the month.
IMHO, one of the problems is the hair-trigger for a charge of hypocrisy.
For the value to be equally applied to two situations, the situations (and the relevant back stories) must be substantively equivalent, equal, or similar.
So … if Bill Clinton involved the US in the Kosovo War, that really isn’t the same thing, materially, as Operation Eagle Claw, the Battle of Mogadishu, or Bush 43’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
So … “it’s okay when my side does it, but execrable when your side does” isn’t really a fair knock when the circumstances are materially dissimilar.
Even to the degree one could quantify economic disruption, property destruction, violence, etc., as relatively comparable between Trucker Car-less-sons and – say – Occupy Wall Street or any of the BLM protests – they simply aren’t the same.
Your stance and the stance of practically every other person in this thread is it’s ok to do what one wishes as long as it coincides with your particular world view. Trudeau was in support of the exact same action when it didn’t impact his country and his politics. When it was someone else’s problem your Prime Minstrel was just fine with opining on another country’s issues.
What an awful attempt at an analogy. The proper analogy would be a comparison between two groups doing a similar action, such as a blockade, while being supported on one hand and critiqued on the other.