So are some of my dreams, yet I’ve managed to remain grounded in reality.
You could try replacing it with the mondegreen “Threre are spirits eating my Cheerios.”
Where is it written that everyone’s experience will be the same.
Nowhere, if the experience in question has absolutely no basis in reality and is simply a fiction.
And if it were written somewhere, how would that make it any more legitimate? See, even written things are written by humans, and attributing written things to anything else is a…fiction–or at the least, speculation with no basis in fact and no basis for preferring one putatively supernatural source over another.
Imagination, fiction and speculation produce contradictory paradigms with nonsensical “rules” and wildly discordant notions about the “spirit world.” Various posts above illustrate that nicely. What’s odd to most of us is that, instead of drawing the obvious conclusion that it is all nonsense, it seems somehow to fit into some sort of cohesive whole for you, with any inconsistencies simply being part of the Grand Conspiracy by the spirit world to cloud man’s thinking.
Then you should have no problem discounting global warming, that is unless you have the expertise to study the entire issue yourself, by constructing your own instruments that you have tested, because you can’t trust those owners manuals that come with store bought scientific instruments either ya know. The Word of God is far more easy for you to prove to yourself then AGW.
So we’re saying that a planchette is a vehicle for fortunetelling, but when Cate** Blanchett **was cast in The Gift, they had her be a tarot card reader. Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Everyone has dreams dude, some are cooler than others. If Lekatt had actually been near death when he had his NDE, I’d be far more understanding of his belief, but… he had a dream, and quite a good one by the sounds of it.
My Magic 8-Ball saw it coming.
Actually, NDEs are a tool of Satan himself. Allow me to explain:
When you get hit by a car, or a piano falls on you from 20 stories high, your brain might suffer some serious damage, and swelling occurs. Perhaps even bleeding in the brain. Nevermind any other internal or external injuries. The brain is the seat of the spirit, and when that is damaged, it is prone to the spirit world pouring in — like a sinking boat with several leaks. The brain, literally starts to drown in the spirit world.
Many think what they are experiencing is the afterlife, however, this isn’t possible. One can only, truly, enter the realm of God by completely exiting their vessel (or physical body), but once this is done, it is permanent — You simply cannot return to your old body. God has allowed this to happen only on very rare and special occasions in the Bible, but was done decidedly as acts of miracles, and intercession of the faithful is a must. (The only exception being God himself, aka Jesus).
Knowing this to be the case, we also know that Satan is the Prince of Darkness and Lord over the Earth. It is he that rules the spiritual realm over the earth, and us hapless denizens that abide in it. So, when the brain has been compromised, and the soul of that individual is exposed, it is the world of Satan that seeps in in order to deceive you. He fills your spirit with false visions and lies about the afterlife. Your spirit never left the seat of your vessel, it was just tricked into believing so, thus is the power of Satan’s deception! Of course he want’s you to believe that when you do eventual shed this mortal coil, you’re in for an eternity of Love, Peace and Awe. In reality, you’ve just become victimized by the Great Manipulator in the worst possible way. Far, far worse than Ouija boards. You’ve been conned by the devil himself, and are now living a lie that he has implanted in your spirit when you were the most vulnerable.
It’s as obvious as the nose on your face. May God have mercy on your soul.
I had a heart attack on Jan. 1st, 1987 at Eastland Mall. Upon getting to the doctor He recommended immediate surgery, and I refused. He said I wouldn’t live six months without surgery. I took the pills he gave me and went home. I intended to study the situation and I did. I thought I could help myself and I started a program of diet, walking, and meditation. I was seeing the doctor regularly when the near death experience happened about 2-3 months after the first attack. I was out of my body and experiencing what I wrote about, I was fully awake when it happened. People will believe what they wish, that is why I posted this on your post.
The focus is always shifted from the topic to the individual in a red herring style. But people always make fun of what they fear, it is nothing new. If anyone should want to hold serious talks we can on my site forum,
So, how do you know you weren’t tricked by Satan, as explained in my post above? Us mere mortals must be careful how we interpret supernatural events.
Actually, I’d rather we moved back to the topic by having you reconcile your statements that spirits experience past, present, and future all at the same time, but despite this don’t have access to the part of the future which includes lotto numbers.
And telling me that there is no lotto in the spirit world is a stupid and obvious way to try and avoid having to face the contradiction in your statements. If you have any intellectual honesty at all, you will answer how the spirits with their knowledge of the future fail to know about earthly lotteries. Or you’d admit that you are just making stuff up as you go. One or the other.
Did you eventually have the surgery, by the way?
Many people will try to play down or discredit spiritual experiences, which just serves to have people ignore their own, or to try to justify them. It also tends to have society torment people who claim to have had them, leaving them feel isolated or broken which is very cruel. It also tends to have people not look for spiritual solutions to issues in their own life.
Which is why I feel the need to comment that I do fully believe that your spiritual experiences were real, though I do disagree with your interpretation.
Many other people play up or give credit to spiritual explanations for ordinary experiences, which just serves to have people misinterpret their own, or to try to elaborate upon them. It also tends to have society encourage and support such beliefs on people, leading them to waste more and more of their life on false pursuits which is very cruel. It also tends to have people look for opportunities to adopt false and ineffective spiritual solutions to issues in their own life.
How could you possible know how to interpret what you believe is a spiritual interaction? With Satan or demons always out there to try and trick you, how can you ever be sure where it’s coming from.
Not only that, doesn’t it bother you in the slightest that every single person (that has faith) has their very own interpretation of spiritual encounters and what they might mean? Doesn’t seem like a very solid foundation to build beliefs on top of, if no one can even agree on what the spirit would is, how it functions, and how it affects our earthly lives… let alone how to interpret them.
If you had been paying attention you would know I don’t believe in Satan or demons and such.
No, I didn’t, the experience healed me. I knew I was ok when it was over. This is typical of NDEs. They give love, knowledge, and healing.
The spirit world has no lottery, no gambling, no booze, no drugs, no sex, no justice system, no lawyers, no firemen, nor anything else that spirits have no need for. What justice that is necessary is built in, it happens automatically.
There’s an alternate explanation, of course - your doctor was wrong about the severity of your condition, or he exagerated it a little because he thought it necessary to sound dire to talk into getting surgery he thought you would probably need.