Children are fucking apes. They should be whipped and scalded into obedience. Obviously.
Many people believe they have some say as to what type of life they would lead, what lessons they are to learn, etc.
They would have to have a claim on you. You would have to submit to them in some matter, though the details may not be obvious to you, as Eve found out.
Along these lines, there are very few truly free things in the world, there are strings attached to most.
[QUOTE=kanicbird;10869027Where is it written that the majority is correct? Actually my take on scriptures is that it will be the opposite. Also my take of life is the ones who step out that makes a difference in the world, not just follows along blindly.[/QUOTE]
It’s the vast majority, and if the vast majority is diverse and yet none can provide any factual corroboration of your claims, so that’s a strong indication that you’re probably wrong.
You can’t just “step out” in any old direction, you have to step out in the direction of the truth.
Quite frankly, yes. Or rather, it’s what is typically called “coincidence” by mere mortals - and your decision to assign OMG THAT IS SO SIGNIFICANT importance to the cases where events appear, on first examination, to line up: that is confirmation bias.
And parents have a claim on their grandchildren to the fourth generation? If so, why wouldn’t my 18th cousin seven times removed have a claim on me? Everyone’s related, you know - by both creationist and real-world theories.
And sqweels, Argumentum ad Populum is actually a fallacy, and probably not a good place to be arguing from. Though the fact that nobody shares kanicbird’s worldview (and how could they - it evolves every time she gets a new creative theory) is rather telling.
I’ll see your John Todd and raise you a Mike Warnke.
I hope they don’t take your advice either.
That’s the most ridiculous question I’ve ever been asked. I’m not using hyperbole, either.
Why am I against Love for children? Well, for starters, I’m not against loving children and you’re using a cheap strawman instead of making an actual argument. I think most people would be ashamed to use an argument like that. Aside from that, I don’t believe love - or “Love,” which I guess is intended to mean agape or some kind of cosmic gobbledygook you have never defined - is a cure for autism because there’s no evidence it is. There’s no evidence for any of what you say, of course, because most of it is a ridiculous fiction with no more credibility than Mother Goose or the story of Jack and the Beanstalk, although those stories at least made sense as narratives. That’s not the case for your tales about the unborn making deals with demons.
But the real issue here is that you’re presuming to tell autism caregivers what they should do. You thought to suggest “Try hugging the kid,” as if that was a brilliant idea they never could have come up with on their own, a veritable revolution in childcare. And you suggest they try loving the children they work with - which they obviously do already or they would not be in that line of work.
Unless of course press-shift-key Love means something different, of course. In which case I’m sure it was a great idea and they were grateful for it.
Lastly - I think this is lastly - you’re suggesting God impelled you to give that advice. Because of course, you’d never be so vain as to tell them what to do, but the Holy Spirit Jesus needed you to tell the people who work with autistic kids, “hey, genius, try hugging the kids!” You’re the voice of God himself in this discourse, which does a good job of covering up the fact that you haven’t demonstrated any actual knowledge of autism. In fact your knowledge of autism is comparable to the knowledge of medieval barbers or of the ancients who tried to cure headaches by drilling holes in the patient’s skull.
Hug children and love them! Shit, who’d have ever thought of it without the Lord’s intervention via kanicbird? It’s like a cross between Jesus and Benjamin Spock convened to make that suggestion! All the mothers and fathers of autistic kids are WAY too stupid to ever try realize their kids are autistic because they don’t love them enough! Thank God you’re here to blame the victim, Dr. Kanicbird!
Then why are professionals instructed/trained not to get emotionally attached, this is the same for any therapy ?
The world is training people to withhold the very thing that they need to get better.
Whatever you want to call it I will praise the Lord for it.
It’s the sins of person or the fathers to the 4 generation ONLY. The mother can do it herself as her person, the child can - these are the only females capable of making such a deal for that child, if the child is male the only female would be the mother. All the rest would be males.
I do differentiate between love and Love, as I experienced both, the first one I knew as long as I remembered, AFAIK it came as standard equipment, as in we all get it. But Love is in Love from God. It has to be experienced to be ‘learned’, IMHO very few people have experienced this (my guess 5-10%, perhaps less), I didn’t till way into my adult life. It is a increadable feeling of a intense warm heart radiating out warmth. It is not related to sexuality or those feeling.
These people that I’m talking about have that degree of Love, they are wonderful people to be around, but they have to be untrained what their head has been taught by the world to not be emotionally attached and go with there heart to let the Love flow through them to the children.
Cite please.
This is pure bullshit. As I said, I hope these people disregarded your comments immediately.
I’m glad you enjoy these illusions. I’ve had some very enjoyable ones myself, but I don’t prescribe them as medical cures.
God doesn’t raise children, people do.
Doesn’t this have something to do with NAFTA? And as for that dishonest weights and measures, I been telling people for YEARS that metric is NOT the way to go!
PS - Cuckoorex, how much you willing to pay for a Monkey Wench? I am in need of steady employment after all…
Ten bananas per day, to start, with opportunity for advancement.
I want to call it “convincing yourself that a fantasy is true, when it is actually completely divorced from reality and completely untrue”.
But I’m sure it’s quite fun and you may praise Cthulhu for it if you like.
Just don’t purport to give medical advice. Surprisingly, love (or “Love”) has a positively terrible success rate at curing anything, from broken bones to tetanus to food poisoning to autism to cancer to death.
Well, that’s stupidly arbitrary. If I was a demon I would never respect such limitations.
(And any god who respects the deceptive and unfairly weighed deals of demons done with complete innocents who do not know better is similarly arbitrary…but not in a good way.)
I understand you speak from personal belief, but dude, this is getting increasingly hard to swallow. How do we have the capacity to understand anything when we’re fetuses (feti?), much less before we’re born? If we’re destined to be sinners because of Adam & Eve’s bad deeds, why do demons even bother?
You do understand when I said “it’s society’s fault,” it was in jest and referred to modern day society, don’t you?
So demons tempt us constantly. Is any person EVER accountable for their own actions? There’s over 6 billion of us, so there must be at least that number of demons. Where did they all come from? Sounds like the Big Guy is hopelessly outnumbered.
So do demons automatically stop tempting us when G & J move in? Seems like once those two leave (only two of them for 6 billion of us), the demons are back in business.
When you say time doesn’t exist in the spirit plane, do you mean spirits are static and unchanging? If time doesn’t exist, they couldn’t exist. If they’re unchanging, then they can’t influence us, because that involves change. I guess it’s better to leave out logic.
If I got to choose what I wanted to do with my life before I existed, I’d have wished for something a helluva lot better than I got now! What you’re talking about sounds a lot like reincarnation. That in the Bible?
I think ol’ Jonah was being metaphorical there. He couldn’t see anything outside the insides of a giant fish gullet, much less the roots of mountains. No wonder he felt so claustrophobic.
Again, it sounds like it’d be a lot easier to prey on the weakness of the dieter directly, rather than using some fatty as a voodoo doll. After all, we do have the recurring image of the imp sitting on our shoulders, telling us “Go ahead, take that extra doughnut. One little bite won’t hurt.”
This is so much more scintillating than ouija boards.
Demons get relief from their torment by inflicting as much pain on us as possible, and they exalt themselves in the process. They make us suffer, try to make us think we like it, and try to have us thank them. From what I gather, they were angels with great power suppose to do much of our work, they changed that around, where we do their work.
As for our capacity, my understanding is God tells us at creation don’t deal with them, we disobey because we want a shiny new car. No it doesn’t sound fair to me either.
According to scriptures 1/3 of the angels fell, so 2/3 are still holy. Plus the power of God is far above theirs
God is omnipresent, there is no once they leave. I can pray to Jesus with Him standing right infront of me while my friend does the same where he is. At this point demons can tempt us, and we can get sidetracted for a while but God is in control of our lives at this point.
Logic in our universe doesn’t apply for another one. The best way I can describe it is they can see out entire life at every moment in theirs. A little back there was a description of a LSD ‘trip’ to IMHO the spiritual world (Also IMHO there is a reason it’s called a ‘trip’), their description sounded like their entire life they saw. While they would have seen it all simultaneously, our physical minds can’t handle that, so would set it in order.
How about something along the lines of Bill Gates then? Not mentioning the part that you will be secretly in intense pain and a heroine addict.
As for reincarnation, we have one life, and God has limited it to 120 years, but can that one life have multiple bodies? There is Elijah who came back as John the Baptist.
I do find it interesting that:
1 - God desires all His children to be saved
2 - He is in total control with full knowledge, power, presents
3 - His Spirit (our existing in the world as alive) will only contend with us for 120 years
4 - He designed and knew the outcome before He created it
5 - Again Elijah came back as John t B
6 - John the Baptist had the Holy Spirit on him before birth
(all scripturally supportable)
How can God let one of His children die in a state to go to Hell when they still have some of that time 120 years remaining?
How can anyone live in a fish for 3 days? There is a form of ‘living’ in death.
Well once you start using voodoo powers it’s sort of a power trip, so you ‘need’ these victims to progress.
Like Amway?
Say what now?