From God’s point it actually doesn’t accept gains them access to the people God wants to help through them.
If I were bothering them they certainally didn’t seem bothered, but it is because He Loves us. I have done many things for the Lord, and it is the best work you can imagine. He wants to work through us, though He is capable of doing it Himself.
We ALL bear curses from our departure from His ways, this may include medical issues of varying degrees. So was your aunt cursed, every single person even Jesus was/is cursed.
The scriptures talk about people with the gift of celibacy, which Paul had, but Paul raised many spiritual children.
As for the nuns, I don’t know, but that level of restrictiveness seems very close to the oppression of women that Islam is famous for, which is very sad IMHO, and if so (again IMHO they would be burring great pain). It is very possible that God can have a woman become a nun to reach the other nuns, and as His servant she would abstain from marriage (sex)/children and God would protect her from the longing for children.
So in effect, we forget everything before we’re born, since we get memory wipes to learn the new system. That means all the things that the demons and God told us are forgotten. Isn’t it a lot more plausible to just believe that we start from fertilized eggs?
If you’re not sure, and can’t verify what happens to us before birth, maybe you should abandon your original theory of us being fully formed pre-existence. Remember, we used to think the Earth was the center of the universe until we invented telescopes and found out we were wrong.
So God allows damnation to some who are already saved to scare the rest of us straight? That means it doesn’t do you any good to get saved if He’s going to be so capricious about it.
So in effect, God is trusting demons to make us good? I thought they wanted to corrupt and destroy us. Talk about leaving the fox to guard the henhouse… Seriously, would you trust your daughter to the care of a convicted serial rapist, on the off chance that his abuse of her would make her turn out to be all nice and Christian? Not too high a success rate in real life.
You seem to place a lot of faith in the suggested, the possible, and the might-be. Wouldn’t you be more secure in believing in the already proven?
If God told me I could be the richest man in the world, but I would be addicted to heroin and suffer from hemmorhoids, I’d say Hell Yeah! I can pay for rehab for the heroin and pay to get cured of hemmorhoids! Where do I sign?
Welp, the fish needs oxygen too, so maybe Jonah lived off the fish’s internal combustion fumes.
When you say air is spirit, is it related to the spirit plane? Are we breathing spirits?
Well, there ya go. JC used metaphor in comparing 3 days of death to 3 days in a fish’s belly. I’d think the fish would be a lot softer than tons of earth pressing down on me, but to each his own.
Dunno about you but I drink 'em.
Are you sure you cleared all these beliefs with the bible before accepting them?
I mean, it’s one thing to clear them with “God”, since I don’t recall you ever indicating that it was possible to tell the difference between God, and some arbitrary demon or devil or satan doing a perfect imitation of God, which you have stated is perfectly within their ability. So, when you think you cleared your beliefs with God, you probably actually cleared them with something else, some spirit or demon or your imagination or subconscious. But the bible, on the other hand, is pretty unsubtle about Jesus’s divinity in some parts of it, which makes deciding that Jesus is cursed pretty iffy.
(And heck, didn’t you say that demons fled before God and Jesus and were not able to manipulate people in their presence? Jesus was in Jesus’s presence quite a lot, wasn’t he?)
Uh, you do know nuns CHOOSE to enter the convent, right? It’s all voluntary?
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So in effect, we forget everything before we’re born, since we get memory wipes to learn the new system. That means all the things that the demons and God told us are forgotten. Isn’t it a lot more plausible to just believe that we start from fertilized eggs?
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IMHO we still remember everything, as our eternal soul is the real us, but our minds are just not really capable of but it does influence who we are very strongly. You may consider it nature vs nurture.
As for the sperm/egg, those are physical representations of the spiritual IMHO. The sperm is the eternal soul of the person, the egg is the physical body.
IMHO the earth centered theory of the solar system, changing to sun centered in the way it happened was suppose to happen as it did. At one time we are self (earth) centered, then we come to God (sun) and make Him the center.
It’s not eternal damnation, something along the lines of 20 minutes or so, IIRC someone who this was done to took I think 6 months to recover. This life till we are take home by Jesus is sacrificial, meaning we are going to die, and suffer.
God sees your entire life, He know that if having you raped by a demon will draw you closer to Him He will allow it.
Actually it is seeming more and more that the ‘proven’ as you call it is deception, and god continues to prove Himself the real proven. One such thing is pharmaceuticals, yes they can manage conditions, but this is not God’s way, and many of them are a way of selling yourself into a form of bondage in exchange for relief. So many people are afraid of leaving their job because of health insurance, they are in bondage to that job. note: this is not saying just go off those things.
IIRC I said as rich as Bill Gates, I don’t know who the richest man is.
The Hebrew word for wind is the same as breath and spirit, they are interchangeable. Not related to the spirit world, but related to the living component we need to be alive in the world
I said that God gets to control their life, and God may allow demons to temp and to torment a person, but it is God who controls their life once they are a believer , not Satan.
Why, yes, I did have a mature adult mind starting from the instant I was born, and never ever had to learn anything except physical motor control. Isn’t that how it is with everyone?
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I knew it! My ex GF did eat human souls! I suspected as much.
I’m not saying it is not voluntary, people voluntarily place themselves into bondage all the time (military, cults, etc.)
my aforementioned ex girlfriend.
Your mind is for understanding this world, not just your physical body, your soul knows about the spiritual world.
That is a indication that she is in spiritual bondage to you, to the degree you can bind her physically in sex play is usually a indication of how much you control her spiritually and how much freedom in the relationship she has, including feeling free to talk with you.
Possibly, I don’t believe each ejaculation contains a soul. IMHO That soul, if present would, by being consumed by her and enter her body would end up underground in Sheol much like Jonah did when the fish ate him.
Well, I don’t know anything about this spirit world of yours, so apparently I don’t have a soul, right?
Wait is it one soul per load of semen or one soul per spermatozoa? There’s a difference of about 100 million there.
If not all ejaculations contain souls, what determines this?
Several of my female friends have had kids. Some have not, and I have not either. (We’re fine with it, BTW.) I don’t see either group being happier or unhappier than the other.
I don’t remember anything. I’ve never met anybody who remembered anything prior to birth. Even reincarnation believers don’t claim the reborn soul remembers anything, and Cecil tells us past-life regressions have never been proven.
Problem is, we proved the sun isn’t the center of the universe either.
Oh, that makes it all right then. :rolleyes:
You do remember Christianity became popular when Jesus preached salvation and forgiveness, don’t you? You’re not exactly giving the Big Guy good spin here.
To who? You? How is at numerous scientists make proof, but you alone know it’s a deception? This guy thinks he’s right and everybody else is wrong too.
Wow, you really think people should suffer and not be able to treat their pain? Just so they’ll look good in God’s eyes? I thought Jesus suffered on our behalf so we wouldn’t have to.
I would have thought people don’t want to leave their jobs so they can afford food, lodging, and other life essentials, but that’s just me.
Uh…OK, maybe Bill Gates isn’t the world’s richest man, but I wouldn’t mind having his billions all the same. Why does that make any difference?
I have not, in fact…
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