The world has stood by and pretty much ignored what’s been happening in Iraq. That is, until the victims are Christians. All of a sudden the U.S. war machine is revving up into action.
I’m not specifically anti-Christian in this context, but it does seem like more than a coincidence. I hope I’m wrong.
The Iraqi christians have been pretty much taking it in the neck ever since Saddam was toppled. It’s really not caused much fuss so far.
The articles I’ve been reading (example linked) say that although some Christians are involved, the main concern is for a Kurdish population who identify as Yazidis. I have to confess I never heard of a religion by that name before today, although it’s apparently been around for quite some time.
What I am also hearing is that there is no chance of US ground troops going in. Does the OP have diffferent info?
I’ve not noticed this. The “war machine”, such as it is, was rev’ed up as soon as ISIS started getting serious in Iraq. But that’s basically John McCain and Lyndsey Graham.
It’s like that time when those Serbian Muslims massacred some Bosnian Christians. Immediately the Christian War Machine revved up and bombed those Serbian Muslims back to the Stone Age until they finally caved.
Again and again you see it happen. Can’t all be a coincidence.
Hell, they even tried that when the “Lord’s Army” terrorists in Africa were being pushed back by government forces. Because they had a religious name, they had to be the good guys! They re-branded it as “Obama’s War Against Christianity.”
But all of a sudden it’s Obama’s problem, and it’s taken on a sense of urgency that didn’t exist until now. I’m not saying we shouldn’t help them, I’m just wondering why we waited until this population was attacked.
Note to American evangelicals: What is happening in Iraq is real persecution.
Jealous, eh?
I guess it depends if they are friendly to us, and are sitting on some oil.
The people making the biggest uproar regarding the persecution of Middle Eastern Christians are the paleo-conservatives (The Pat Buchanan crowd) , and those guys never wanted the U.S.A. taking military action against Iraq in the first place.
Some links of articles summarizing this issue would help. I’ve been following developments pretty closely, and I haven’t seen an upsurge in war mongering since Christian persecution has been in the news.
Is this people on Facebook or something? If so, then no wonder I’m not seeing it. I’m the only person in the world not on Facebook.
Part of the issue is that the Shiites and Sunnis each have their own militias who are battling it out with each other. It’s harder to sort them out into victim and agressor since they each fill both roles, and in any event they have some entity standing up for them. There are no Christian or Yazidi militias out there, and they are not being attacked because they represent some real or imagined threat to anyone, and in any event they more clearly represent a Victim class.
I assume you make this type of lovely comment addressed to other groups similarly claiming “persecution” in the US, e.g. various ethnic minorities and so on.
Yeah, the situation in Iraq has been completely ignored by the world’s media for YEARS. Why, I can’t remember the last time I saw any news story even mentioning the country! :rolleyes:
Yep. Any calls for U.S. action in Iraq (muted at best) have involved ISIS and its military moves.
If there have been any influential people calling for an incursion to save the Iraqi Christians, I haven’t heard it.
No; we single it out for Limbaugh-whining rich white guys who complain that they are the ones who are really oppressed in this country.
We don’t use it against people who are actually in disadvantaged positions in terms of income, wealth, political representation, or employment.
Your effort at insisting on “equality” is misguided. Rich people complaining about how poor their lives are is worthy of ridicule. Poor people making the same complaint have a pretty good point.
Wars aren’t for the benefit of all mankind-they are for the benefit of the belligerents. At least, ostensibly.
If the US is mainly Christian, and I believe that the mainstream would say it is (definitions created by each person, individually) then the US is, more or less, bound to follow it’s own interests. If that means that the US Wehrmacht follows the bidding of the Christians, then, it means that the US is doing the will ‘of the people’.
I don’t get the anti-Christian post, however. You are not a young man, and, if anything, you should be aware that none of the other activities of the US in the region, at least in the last 60 years, and there have been many, have been Christianity-related. Nobody in the US gives a shit about what happens in Iraq unless it affects somebody in the US. Clearly, there have been no US interests affected till now.
With Jackmannii, I haven’t heard of ANYBODY calling for any action in re the Christians. Do you have quotes, other than the standard clerical ones that always come up when the government starts rattling sabers (irrespective of administration)?
“…all of a sudden it’s Obama’s problem…” what does this have to do with the OP? WTH is the point with this?
Also, what steps is the ‘war machine’ actually taking to invade?
I’m not sure why you’ve appointed yourself as spokesman for another poster.
But FWIW, if “What is happening in Iraq is real persecution” then the same would apply to the other groups as well. (This is even assuming that evangelicals are “rich white guys”, which is not at all clear.)
My guess is this is really a domestic politics issue. Let’s face it: nobody wants to send troops back to Iraq. That’s just not going to happen.
But in the next couple of elections, the Republicans will talk about how the Obama administration just stood by while Muslims were killing Christians. They won’t point out that it’s Congress and not the President who have the power to declare war.
Nope, I reserve it for privileged majorities who need to pretend to be oppressed so that they can believe that they are fulfilling a prophecy in which they are Saved.