Our Eyes Meet, and Yet I Say Nothing: In Which I Relate The Tale of The Dream Girl

Note to Admins: Damn thread titles aren’t long enough for me to glurge out a properly convoluted description of my situation in the style of Miguel de Cervantes. Please rewrite all applicable code and recompile vCode to suit my aimless whims. Thanx, Stranger.
Anyway, where was I? Oh yes, I was preparing to describe my encounter with the Dream Girl and my absolute, abominable, and inexcusable failure to actually, you know, say “Hi,” or something. So there I am, at the Whole Foods, attempting not to blow my Whole Paycheck on their All Natural, Super Organic, Not Genetically Modified, Utterly Nutritious Something or Another, when I see her passing by the butcher’s counter. Oh yes, it’s Her; tall, slender, slightly geekly countinence amplified by her librarian-inspired eyeware, the slightly grubbly-looking scrubs, carrying a basketful of produce sticking out at exciting angles, slightly disaffected. Think Julianne Nicholson, but somewhat less freckles, or perhaps a redheaded stepsister of Gweneth Paltrow (who I’ve been mildly enthused about ever since I saw Proof, even though in real life she probably can’t balance her checkbook at mortal threat).

So, as we pass, our eyes meet; a sort of click, the kind movie directors like to represent by slowing down the camera and laying on a thick cello accompanyment. But then the moment is over and we move on; her toward the dairy section, me wondering why I require five pounds of super hemp granola out of the bulk dispenser. Redistributing my load to accomodate my unanticipated breakfast food largess, I weigh my options and move to stealthily intercept her in a manner I hope that is no more than Mildly Creepy in the scale of non-romantic-comedy-embedded stalking. I pause in the deli area to provision up on kalamata olives (or as I refer to them, Og’s Candy) when again I see the Ultimate Picture Of Lovelyness browsing through the wines. This being a forest with whose species I am manifestly familiar, I slither forward in a way hopefully not interpreted as unremittingly predatory and prepare to engage in some vino-related veritas, possibly culimating in my inviting her home sometime to watch The Triplets of Belleville while peering on the screen of my laptop. (Note to self: If I expect to ever be taken seriously by a woman, I need to purchase actual furniture and home entertainment system and otherwise give the appearance of being a non-seriously-screwed up adult human being instead of a fugitive from justice.)

Anyway, my luck–never a reliable quantity at the best of time–doesn’t hold, and she abandons her interest in wine to move toward the checkout. I sigh and count my…well, I guess I don’t really have any winnings at this point, so I count my olives instead. A couple more minutes and a bagette of La Brea sourdough later, I go to the checkout myself, only to see The One And Only Love Of My Life at the next line, still going through the process of checking out. I ignore the stabbing pain in my heart and the mockery that Lady Fate chuckles out and pay for my goods while keening She Who Gives The World Light, and am rewarded with another one of those meeting of the eyes as she glances my way, as she hefts her bags of groceries. Her goods (the food, I mean) paid for and the bag boy urging her out of the way to make room for the noxious crap selected by the next cretin in line, she turns away and moves to exit, while I’m exorably chained by my own, yet to be paid for foodstuffs. My load is fortunately light, being, as I am, completely alone and without anyone to prepare a romantic dinner for, and I’m able to scuttle out rapidly in hopes of catching sight of her escaping for good from my vision.

And alas, Fortune–the unmitigated bitch–blows me one tiny kiss; I spy Her Grace And Beauty zipping out of the parking lot in a silver Subaru WRX. sigh The only way this woman could attain further esteem in my much-fallow emotions is to be carrying around a biophysics text or be muttering lines in preparation for playing Ophelia in a community theater production of Hamlet.

And so goes another opportunity to escape my prison of lonelyness and dispair with respect to romantic engagement. I submit to you, fellow Dopers, the question of what I might have done in place of standing around in a slack-jawed haze like an extra in Deliverance, in full knowledge that the responses will alternate between “You’re a hideous toad and of course no woman of taste would ever want to have anything to with you,” and “You should have walked up to her and said, ‘Baby, let’s hit it!’”, with the faint hope that somewhere in the balance I might distill a few elements of worthwhile advice and speculation. Heave away with your mightiest of blows, your most corrosive of acid comments, your invective and your spite; I can withstand anything…except to fail yet again to make the best effort in the presense of She Who Will Forever Haunt My Dreams without generating a rating of more than 6 on the Creep-O-Meter.

Stranger

Have you thought about getting a cat? :smiley:

Your only hope at this point, and it’s a very slim one, is the Craigslist Missed Connections section.

If you see her again in Whole Foods or a similar store, leave your cart where it is and immediately buy her a flower. Or you could buy her two flowers and say that one of them is for the first time you saw her there. Isn’t there a place to sit down and drink a cup of chai?

Normally I’m similar. I almost never approach the female. I figure it means more if she approaches me.

When something is too good to pass up, I drive strong to the hoop.

You already know she likes similar food, so that part is done with.
I don’t propose a “Hey baby, wanna swing from my nuts like a monkey?” approach.

The next time you see her in the store, make sure you end up in the same aisle/department. Make a comment about something in her bag. Ask if it’s as good as some of the other brands, even if you know of the superiority/infreriority of the other brands. Get her to say something and then give an introduction.

Even if it gets awkward right there and you exchange names and she smiles. Play the “I’m sorry, but I had to say something to you, and this is the way I figured I’d do it. I thought maybe you’d like to grab some lunch/coffee sometime” card.

If she’s down with the entire idea, she’ll smile and the rest of the conversation will flow. Suggest an appropriate time for dinner/lunch/porn watching session.

If you DARE write another post and you don’t come bearing news, I will hunt you down and beat you with a brick of sharp cheddar cheese.

Maybe I’m a little old-fashioned (or, just old), but some non-creepy eye contact and a smile have pretty much always done it for me. I find it particularly adorable when my beloved tilts his chin down, just a touch, so that he’s “looking up” to make eye contact. Doing that exposes a little more of the white of your eyes, thereby creating a more innocent, inviting appearance (or, if you overdo it, the piercing glare of one about to eviscerate you).

When the two of you made eye contact, was it the fleeting “nothing” that happens with “regular” people, or was it of the "how you doin’ " variety. Because, I can tell you, I’d made it a point to recreate those chance meetings. Shop at Whole Foods again next week, same day and time. If she was wearing scrubs, she was stopping in after work, and may do the same next week.

Good luck

I find it unlikely that I’ll run across her again; it’s a large, often very busy store, and despite shopping there 2-3 times a week for the past few years I’ve never seen this particular Vision Of Extraordinary Beauty before. I’m looking more for suggestions on how to handle these type of “one chance only” situations. As for the nature of the eye contact…it beats me. Although I’ve trained myself to read “tells” for some types of behavior, I’m notoriously bad at discriminating between interest and revulsion, which has resulted in not a few embarassing exchanges.

I fear silenus probably has it right; a cat is about my speed for companionship, but they make such lousy drinking partners and aren’t much interested in films.

Stranger

Was she wearing pajama pants?

d&r

:smiley:

Dude, next time get her license plate. From there, you can find out where she lives. Then rent the apartment next door…

Just remember: it’s threats of violence that turn a romantic comedy into a stalker flic. :wink:

There’s a nicely-insider Doper reference - well done!

(for newer Dopers, there was a thread some time ago about a Cute Pyjama-Pants-wearing girl that got a ton of reads and activity, but slowly degenerated into teen-sex soft core and was called out as fiction - which the OP never denied or tried to defend, IIRC…)

In this entire saga, did she notice your presence?

If so, then it is possible that you may bump into her again. She’s got similar tastes in foods, something we know.

If you see her again, dammit…just…make sure you seal the deal.

Damnit, now you made me blow an hour of my morning searching and reading old threads. Lamentedly, no, she was not wearing any kind of revealing clothing, though if I could write as well appealingly as the author of the thread you allude to, I’d quit my job making things not blow up in a heartbeat and whore my talent to pulp true crime and erotica magazines.

Is that legal advice? :slight_smile: And for the record, no, I don’t need your cop brother-in-law to cover me in the infinitesimally unlikely event that I actually manage a date with said young lady. I’ll carry my own drop piece should it come to that. Oh, wait, you said no violence…never mind. :wink:

Stranger

Non-expert advice follows as I have a 0 for 0 average of hitting on strangers: the only way I know to handle these “one chance only” situations is to make them NOT be one chance only and not strangers. You’ve been shopping there 2-3 times a week for the last few years? Well for he next month, shop there 2 times per DAY! Hit the same time as this chance meeting. The staff won’t see it as weird, lots of people like to buy a danish in the morning and buy fresh produce in the evening. So then you see her 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 times and say “Hey! We always seem to be here at the same time!”

Other than that, while cats aren’t much into film, they are quite interested in literature if it is laid flat on a table in a warm spot.

Oh, Boy…

Nostalgia attack, big time.

The scene: Phipps Plaza theatre in Atlanta in the line waiting to buy The Exorcist tickets on a beautiful Sunday afternoon.

In the “waiting to go in” line was the most beautiful red-headed woman I had ever seen in my life. Our eyes met, and we smiled at each other, and we looked and smiled at each other until she and her date finally entered the theater.

The very next day I placed an ad in the Atlanta Journal and Constitutional’s “Personals” section describing the encounter and asking her to please respond, and of course she never did.

I gotta tell ya’ though, it was an “almost-close encounter” that I will always remember and treasure.

Sometimes, on late Sunday afternoons, I think about her and how I felt that day, and it makes me feel really good. I wrap myself up in that precious little episode of my life, and I am very content in letting it be what it was: just a beautiful chance encounter.

Thanks

Q

Nothing constructive to add except, Yes… shop more frequently and at the same time and day you saw her. You may be an old customer but she might be new.

That, and your post made me instantly think of this lyric:

  • counting crows, “Long December”

**Stranger ** your post was elegant prose; don’t sell yourself short in the writing department. As a married guy who was usually too shy to speak to strange beautiful girls I was attracted to. Promise yourself to engage in conversation with the opportunity that presents itself. I finally got over my shyness and I ended up marrying the Beautiful Long hair Brunette I kept seeing at environmental events. I came close to blowing it and I would still be regretting it if I did. I am now married close to 14 years. When I got my nerve up, I was rejected probably 3 out 4 times. But the one out of four times is what makes it all worthwhile. I only dated 4 girls in my life. I got married to the fourth.
Good luck, take a chance, the worst that will happen is she will politely blow you off. Don’t allow this to offset you.

Jim

This would get me. Especially if the first time you just gave her the flowers and then gave her your number/ hmm. How do get her on a date?

Eh, go for the coffee.

sniff sniff smells like chicken to me. How can it “mean more” when you don’t even know her?

Make it extra sharp, please.

Other than that, LOUNE has good advice - make up a flimsy question about some food item in her bag or on the shelf. Yes, it will be transparent, but probably endearingly so.

Stranger, honey, you think too much. If the attraction is there, it matters very little what you say (within reason) so much as the fact that you had the balls to say it at all.

“Well, nobody ever told me before, but I wouldn’t go in there.” – Robert DeNiro, Ronin.

I dunno…I’m remarkably bad at reading actual attraction or interest, if it even exists. Or maybe I’m just so used to staring at the stars myself that I don’t want to be bothered describing the constellations to someone else. For whatever reason, I feel like saying or doing the wrong thing is going to result in a felony conviction, and while nobody has been slapping shackles on me in recent memory, past experience has led me to be extremely, perhaps obtusely, conservative in approaching women.

Is there some kind of man page or HOWTO I can read up on to figure this out? What about a Perl script? Something? Anything?

Stranger

Well, there is The Game by Neil Strauss, in which he relates is metamorphosis from Average Frustrated Chump (AFC) to master Pickup Artist (mPUA) using a variety of techniques framed by a bunch of guys on a few message boards.

The book is a little extreme - it becomes much more about racking up a score than meeting someone (although I think Strauss does meet a girl for a real relationship towards the end…) but perhaps some of the techniques might work for you?